SOLVE: Isomorphism Problem for Z252 X Z294 and Z42 X Z1764

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the groups Z252 X Z294 and Z42 X Z1764 are isomorphic. Participants are exploring the properties of these groups through their prime decompositions and the implications of group isomorphism.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to compare the highest order of elements in both groups and seeks hints for justifying isomorphism. Other participants suggest using prime decomposition and the canonical form of the groups to explore potential isomorphisms.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering guidance on how to approach the prime decomposition. There is a recognition of the commutative property of group products, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are working within the constraints of group theory and isomorphism definitions, focusing on the necessary conditions for establishing isomorphism between the given groups.

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Homework Statement


is Z252 X Z294 isomorphic to Z42 X Z1764? Explain.


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I checked that the highest order of the element in both group are 1764, but don't really know how to justify if there is an isomorphism...Can anyone give me some hints?
 
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Hi phyalan! :smile:

Let's first write your thingies in a more canonical form. For this I want you to take the prime decomposition of 252, 294, 42, 1764 and apply the following formula:

[tex]\mathbb{Z}_{ab}\cong \mathbb{Z}_a\times \mathbb{Z}_b[/tex]

if gcd(a,b)=1.

For example, you could write

[tex]\mathbb{Z}_{84}\cong \mathbb{Z}_4\times\mathbb{Z}_3\times \mathbb{Z}_7[/tex].

Try to do this with your groups...
 
So is
[tex]\mathbb{Z}_a\times \mathbb{Z}_b\cong \mathbb{Z}_b\times \mathbb{Z}_a[/tex] ?

if that's ok, then i m done.
Anyway, thank you micromass =)
 
Yes, that's true! :smile:
 

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