MHB Solve IVP: 3.4.5.5 | Eigenvectors Found

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The discussion revolves around solving an initial value problem (IVP) involving a system of differential equations. The characteristic equation derived from the system leads to complex eigenvalues, resulting in a general solution expressed in terms of exponential and trigonometric functions. The specific solutions for x(t) and y(t) are found to be x(t) = e^(4t)(-2 cos(2t) - 9 sin(2t)) and y(t) = e^(4t)(-3 cos(2t) - (11/2) sin(2t)). There is a debate on the necessity of using matrices for this problem, with some participants suggesting simpler methods. The thread concludes with participants expressing appreciation for the guidance provided in understanding the solution process.
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Solve IVP
$\begin{array}{rl}x' & = 2x + 2y\\y' & = -4x + 6y\\x(0) & = 2\\y(0) & = -3
\end{array}$
assume we can proceed with this first
$A=\left[\begin{array}{rr}2&2\\-4&6\end{array}\right]\\
A-rI=\left[\begin{array}{rr}2-r&2\\-4&6-r\end{array}\right]=r^{2} -8r + 20 = 0 \quad r_1 = 4 -2 i \quad r_2=4+2i$

eigenvector: $\left[\begin{array}{c}\dfrac{1}{2} + \dfrac{i}{2}\\1\end{array}\right]$

eigenvector: $\left[\begin{array}{c}\dfrac{1}{2} - \dfrac{i}{2}\\1\end{array}\right]$

so far

 
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Once again, I would not use matrices for this simple a problem.

We have x'= 2x+ 2y so x''= 2x'+ 2y'.
We also have y'= -4x+ 6y so x''= 2x'+ 2(-4x+ 6y)= 2x'- 8x+ 12y.From x'= 2x+ 2y, 2y= x'- 2x so 12y= 6x'- 12x

We have x''= 2x'- 8x+ 6x'- 12x= 8x'- 20x
.x''- 8x'+ 20x= 0.

The characteristic equation is r^2- 8r+ 20= r^2- 8r+ 16- 16+ 20= (r- 4)^2+ 4= 0.
(r- 4)^2= -4 so $r- 4= \pm 2i$. $r= 4\pm 2i$

$x= e^{4t}(A cos(2t)+ B sin(2t))$
$12y= 6x'- 12x$ so $y= (1/2)x'- x$

$x'= 4e^{4t}(A cos(2t)+ B sin(2t))+ e^{4t}(-2A sin(2t)+ 2B cos(2t))= e^{4t}((4A+ 2B)cos(2t)+ (B- 2A)sin(2t))$

so $y= e^{4t}((2A+B)cos(2t)+ (B/2- A)sin(2t))- e^{4t}(A cos(2t)+ B sin(2t))= e^{4t}((A+ B)cos(2t)+ (3B/2- A)sin(2t))$

x(0)= A= 2 and y(0)= A+ B= 2+ B= -3 so B= -5.

$x(t)= e^{4t}(-2 cos(2t)- 9 sin(2t))$
$y(t)= e^{4t}(-3 cos(2t)-(11/2)sin(2t)$.
 
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Once again, I would not use matrices for this simple a problem.

We have x'= 2x+ 2y so x''= 2x'+ 2y'.
We also have y'= -4x+ 6y so x''= 2x'+ 2(-4x+ 6y)= 2x'- 8x+ 12y.From x'= 2x+ 2y, 2y= x'- 2x so 12y= 6x'- 12x

We have x''= 2x'- 8x+ 6x'- 12x= 8x'- 20x
.x''- 8x'+ 20x= 0.

The characteristic equation is r^2- 8r+ 20= r^2- 8r+ 16- 16+ 20= (r- 4)^2+ 4= 0.
(r- 4)^2= -4 so $r- 4= \pm 2i$. $r= 4\pm 2i$

$x= e^{4t}(A cos(2t)+ B sin(2t))$
$12y= 6x'- 12x$ so $y= (1/2)x'- x$

$x'= 4e^{4t}(A cos(2t)+ B sin(2t))+ e^{4t}(-2A sin(2t)+ 2B cos(2t))= e^{4t}((4A+ 2B)cos(2t)+ (B- 2A)sin(2t))$

so $y= e^{4t}((2A+B)cos(2t)+ (B/2- A)sin(2t))- e^{4t}(A cos(2t)+ B sin(2t))= e^{4t}((A+ B)cos(2t)+ (3B/2- A)sin(2t))$

x(0)= A= 2 and y(0)= A+ B= 2+ B= -3 so B= -5.

$x(t)= e^{4t}(-2 cos(2t)- 9 sin(2t))$
$y(t)= e^{4t}(-3 cos(2t)-(11/2)sin(2t)$.
ok I don't think I understood every step, but let me try the the next one with this example on a new thread
it should be 3.4.5.7

that's a lot of help you are providing, I see too there are lots of views
 

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