Solve Nanoparticle Algebra Homework: Find R

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The discussion revolves around an algebraic problem involving the relationship between nanoparticle number density and bulk number density, specifically focusing on isolating the variable R from a given equation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the algebraic manipulation of the equation to isolate R, discussing the formation of a cubic polynomial and the potential for multiple roots. Questions arise about factoring the resulting polynomial and the feasibility of isolating R.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested methods for solving the equation, including finding a common denominator and using the cubic formula. Others have noted the practicality of graphing the data as an alternative approach, indicating a shift in focus from purely algebraic solutions to graphical analysis.

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There is mention of the original poster's intent to analyze experimental data rather than seeking a traditional homework solution, which influences the nature of the discussion. The conversation reflects a mix of theoretical exploration and practical application, with varying levels of comfort regarding algebraic manipulation.

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Homework Statement



[tex]N_{nano}=\left[1-\frac{3}{4}\left(\frac{r}{R}\right)+\frac{1}{16}\left(\frac{r}{R}\right)^3\right]N_{bulk}[/tex]

Solve for R.

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Algebra, come to bite me in the butt...

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\frac{N_{nano}}{N_{bulk}}=1-\frac{3}{4}\left(\frac{r}{R}\right)+\frac{1}{16}\left(\frac{r}{R}\right)^3[/tex]

[tex]\frac{N_{nano}}{N_{bulk}}-1=-\frac{12}{16}\left(\frac{r}{R}\right)+\frac{1}{16}\left(\frac{r}{R}\right)^3[/tex]

[tex]16\left[\frac{N_{nano}}{N_{bulk}}-1\right]=\frac{r^3}{R^3}-12\left(\frac{r}{R}\right)[/tex]


And I'm stuck...
Properly, this isn't a homework question at all; I'm trying to analyze experimental data and I'd rather not call my prof with an algebra question :redface:
 
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No longer *need* an answer. My professor told me to plot the data in excel and solve graphically. But I'd still like to know if it's possible to isolate R.
 
It's certainly possible. Find the common denominator for the fractional parts and make cubic polynomial in R, and find the 3 roots. One is guaranteed to be real, the other two may be complex conjugates or real (can't tell just by looking at it).
 
So...
[tex]16\left[\frac{N_{nano}}{N_{bulk}}-1\right]=\frac{r^3-12R^2}{R^3}[/tex]

[tex]16R^3\left[\frac{N_{nano}}{N_{bulk}}-1\right]=r^3-12R^2[/tex]

[tex]16R^3\left[\frac{N_{nano}}{N_{bulk}}-1\right]+12R^2-r^3=0[/tex]

But how to factor this beastie?
 
daveb said:
Here's a method for solving it. it isn't pretty, but it works.http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CubicFormula.html

Thank you... Uhuhurgh. Maybe I'll give it a shot, though it does make me look a lot more kindly on my professor's approach of just graphing N versus R and seeing where our values of N lie on the curve.
 
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