Solve Parabolic Motion Problem: Jet of Water from Fire Hose

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The problem involves analyzing the parabolic motion of a jet of water from a fire hose, specifically determining the optimal angle for the nozzle to maximize the height at which the jet strikes a building located at a distance from the hose. The discussion centers around the relationship between the initial velocity, angle of projection, and the distance to the target.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions for maximizing the height of the jet, questioning the assumption that the jet will be horizontal at the target distance. There are attempts to relate the vertical and horizontal components of motion and to derive necessary equations for the problem.

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Participants are actively exploring different angles and conditions that could affect the height of the jet upon impact. Some guidance has been offered regarding substituting variables and maximizing the height with respect to the angle, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final equations.

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There is a mention of needing additional equations to solve for unknowns, and participants are considering the implications of their assumptions about the trajectory of the jet.

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I have a problem that means:

The jet of water from a fire hose comes with a vo speed. If the hose nozzle is located at a distance d from the base of a building, demostrate that the nozzle should be tilted at an angle such that tan \alpha = \frac{v_0^2}{gd}

so that the jet strikes the building as high as possible. At the point where it hits, is the jet is going up or going down?
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I have tried this:

If the jet reaches the building as high as possible:

v_y = 0, so t = \frac{v_0 sin \alpha}{g}

When the jet reaches the building, x = d, so:

x = v_0 cos \alpha t \\<br /> <br /> t = \frac {d}{v_0 cos \alpha}<br />

I have, therefore:

\frac{v_0 sin \alpha}{g} = \frac {d}{v_0 cos \alpha} \\<br /> <br /> \frac{v_0^2}{gd} = \frac{1}{cos \alpha sin \alpha}

I should have tan \alpha where I have \frac{1}{cos \alpha sin \alpha}

What is it wrong?

Thank you!
 
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PhoenixWright said:
If the jet reaches the building as high as possible:
##v_y = 0##
Certainly that will be the case at the highest point of the trajectory, for a given angle, but that leaves open the possibility that a higher point could be reached at the given distance by using a different angle. In other words, you have assumed the jet will be horizontal at the target.
(Not saying this is wrong, merely that you have not demonstrated it.)
 
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haruspex said:
Certainly that will be the case at the highest point of the trajectory, for a given angle, but that leaves open the possibility that a higher point could be reached at the given distance by using a different angle. In other words, you have assumed the jet will be horizontal at the target.
(Not saying this is wrong, merely that you have not demonstrated it.)

Thank you!

Then, I think I should add a condition more (one equation), but I have no idea what it is. If I add y = h_0 + v_0sin \alpha t -1/2 gt^2, I would have h unknown; and I think I don't have more equations...
 
PhoenixWright said:
Then, I think I should add a condition more (one equation), but I have no idea what it is. If I add y = h_0 + v_0sin \alpha t -1/2 gt^2, I would have h unknown; and I think I don't have more equations...
You can substitute for t in there using the equation you had from the X direction. It remains to maximise y wrt alpha.
 
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haruspex said:
You can substitute for t in there using the equation you had from the X direction. It remains to maximise y wrt alpha.

Thank you! Now I understand it.
 

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