Solve Sliding Hockey Puck Problem: Coeff. of Kinetic Friction

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The problem involves a hockey puck sliding on ice, with given initial speed and distance before coming to rest. The objective is to determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between the puck and the ice, using principles of physics related to forces and motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the forces acting on the puck to find the coefficient of kinetic friction but encounters difficulty in determining the acceleration. Some participants suggest using equations of motion under constant acceleration, while others question the assumption of constant acceleration and the need for calculus-based derivation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between friction and acceleration, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to be taken, particularly regarding the use of calculus versus standard equations of motion.

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The original poster mentions a restriction against using standard equations of motion, indicating a need to derive all equations through calculus. This constraint is a significant factor in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A hockey puck is sliding across a frozen pond with an initial speed of 7.5 m/s. It comes to rest after sliding a distance of 23.7 m. What is the coefficient of kinetic friction between the puck and the ice?

v0x = initial speed = 7.5 m/s
vfx = final speed = 0 m/s
Δx = x distance traveled = 23.7 m
fk,IP = force of kinetic friction from ice on puck
NIP = normal force from ice on puck
WEP = weight force from Earth on puck
mP = mass of puck
g = acceleration due to gravity

Homework Equations


ƩFnet = m*a
ƩFx = -fk,IP = m*ax
ƩFy = NIP - WEP = m*ay → ay = 0 m/s^2 → NIP = mP*g

The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted this logic...

fk,IP = μk*NIP → (-m*ax)/(mP*g) = μk

But then I hit a wall when trying to find the x-acceleration. Help?
 
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You need the equation of distance traveled under constant acceleration (deceleration in this case).
 
I am not allowed to have the equations of constant acceleration to solve problems. I must derive all equations myself using calculus. How do I even know that the acceleration is constant?
 
there's only one force acting on the puck in the x-direction: the frictional force

and it depends on two constant values: the coefficient of friction and the normal force on the puck

therefore, the force is constant, therefore the acceleration is constant

set up the equation of motion

\Sigma F = m\ddot{x} = F_{friction}

and go from there

I'm assuming that since they want you to derive the equations yourself, that you know how to do a differential equation, right?
 

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