Solve Surface Integral: \vec{F}\cdot\vec{n}\, dS

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The problem involves evaluating a surface integral of the form \(\vec{F}\cdot\vec{n}\, dS\), where \(\vec{F}=<-y,x,0>\) and the surface \(S\) is defined by a plane equation constrained by a triangular region in the xy-plane. The orientation of the surface is specified to have an upward normal vector.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the parametrization of the surface and the calculation of the normal vector. There is a focus on the limits of integration for the triangular region, with some participants questioning whether the bounds are correctly defined.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, particularly around the limits of integration. Some have pointed out potential errors in the upper bounds for the integration, and there is a recognition of the need to clarify these limits. The discussion is ongoing, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the bounds of integration for the triangular region defined by the vertices, indicating that assumptions about the geometry may need to be revisited.

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Homework Statement


Evaluate the surface integral [tex]\vec{F}\cdot\vec{n}\, dS[/tex]

where [itex]\vec{F}=<-y,x,0>[/itex] and S is the part of the plane [itex]z=8x-4y-5[/itex] that lies below the triangle with vertices at (0,0,0,), (0,1,0,) and (1,0,0). The orientation of S is given by the upward normal vector. answer: 2


I am not sure if I am just making a careless mistake or a conceptual one.

The Attempt at a Solution



i.) Parametrizing S gives [itex]\vec{r}(x,y)=<x, y, 8x-4y-5>[/itex]

ii.) Finding [tex]\frac{\partial r}{\partial x}\times \frac{\partial r}{\partial y}=<1,0,8>\times<0,1,-4>=-8,4,1[/tex]

iii.) Thus, [itex]\vec{F}(\vec{r}(x,y))\cdot (\frac{\partial r}{\partial x}\times \frac{\partial r}{\partial y})=<-y,x,0>\cdot<-8,4,1>=<4x+8y>[/itex]

iv) Therefore [tex]I=\int\int_D (4x+8y)\, dA[/tex]

[tex]=\int_{x=0}^1 \int_{y=0}^x (4x+8y)\,dy\, dx[/tex]

I believe that if I made an error, it was made somewhere in here and not in my integration.

Any major blunders here?

Thanks,
Casey
 
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Look at your integral limits. You are integrating over the triangle formed by (0,0,0), (0,1,0) and (1,1,0).
 
Dick said:
Look at your integral limits. You are integrating over the triangle formed by (0,0,0), (0,1,0) and (1,1,0).

Not sure I follow. My x bounds are correct right?
 
Is my upper y bound supposed to be (1-x)?
 
Saladsamurai said:
Is my upper y bound supposed to be (1-x)?

It sure is!
 
:redface: That's what I get for thinking I can do everything in my head...Teehee...
 

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