Solve the linear Diophantine equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a linear Diophantine equation of the form 259x + 581y = 7. Participants are exploring various methods and approaches to find integer solutions, while also discussing the underlying principles of Diophantine equations.

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  • Participants are attempting to derive solutions through various manipulations and substitutions. Some are questioning the correctness of proposed solutions, while others are exploring alternative methods and the implications of the greatest common divisor (gcd) on the existence of solutions.

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The discussion includes multiple interpretations of the problem, with participants providing insights into necessary conditions for solutions and sharing different approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the simplification of the equation and the conditions for integer solutions, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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There is a focus on the conditions under which solutions exist, particularly the relationship between the coefficients and the constant term in the equation. Participants are also noting the importance of clarity in notation and the implications of using certain mathematical conventions.

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Homework Statement
solve the linear diophantine equation ##259x+581y = 7##
Relevant Equations
euclidean algorithm
##259x+581y=7##
##581=259.2+63##
##259=63.4+7##
##63=7.9+0##
therefore by reversing...
##7=0.63+1.7##
##7=1.259-4.63###
##x=1## ##y=-4##
is this correct? Bingo
 
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chwala said:
##x=1## ##y=-4##
is this correct? Bingo
What happens when you substitute the solution back into the equation?
 
Also, never use a . to indicate multiplication. It makes things very hard to read.
 
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i think i figured it out...
##7=1×259-4×63##
##7=1×259-4(581-259×2)##
##7=259×9+581×-4##
on using the general form... we have
##x= 9+83m##
##y = -4-37m##
bingo bingo from Africa:smile:
 
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You may have saved some work if you divided through the first equation by 7. Notice condition for solution apply/exist.
 
WWGD said:
You may have saved some work if you divided through the first equation by 7. Notice condition for solution apply/exist.
can you show how? i have already posted the solution therefore an alternative method would be appreciated...
 
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alternatively from my research you can have
##259x+581y=7##
gcd##(581,259)=7##
therefore dividing the diophantine equation by 7 we have
##83y+37x=1##
83/37= 2+ 1/{37/9}
= 2+ 1/{4+{1/9}}
= 2+ 1/4= 9/4 now assigning suitable change sign on the numerator and denominator we have
##83(-4)+37(9)=1##
 
chwala said:
can you show how? i have already posted the solution therefore an alternative method would be appreciated...
Sure, I was referring to the needed conditions for an integer solution for ## ax+by=c ## to exist. We need gcd(a,b)|c . Just for completeness.
 
There are few key ideas you need to know for linear diophantine equations:
(1)The Linear Diophantine Equation
aX+bY=1 has a solution iff gcd(a,b)=1.

(2) The Linear Diophantine Equation aX+bY=n has solution iff gcd(a,b)|n.

(3) Euclid's Lemma: Let D be gcd(a,b). Then the Linear Diophantine Equation aX+bY=D has a solution.

There are two more important results. Can you fill them in?
 
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MidgetDwarf said:
There are few key ideas you need to know for linear diophantine equations:
(1)The Linear Diophantine Equation
aX+bY=1 has a solution iff gcd(a,b)=1.

(2) The Linear Diophantine Equation aX+bY=n has solution iff gcd(a,b)|n.

(3) Euclid's Lemma: Let D be gcd(a,b). Then the Linear Diophantine Equation aX+bY=D has a solution.

There are two more important results. Can you fill them in?
Thanks for your insight, i should be fine with the idea of solving the diophantine equations...
 
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Solving the Diophant Equation with Multiple Variables
https://abakbot.com/2019-03-12-19-33-47/diofn
Example
Original diophant equation
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A private solution to this equation
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DimsVS said:
Solving the Diophant Equation with Multiple Variables
https://abakbot.com/2019-03-12-19-33-47/diofn
Example
Original diophant equation
A private solution to this equation
how did you get your ##x## values?
 
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Did you notice that all three of 259, 581, and 7 are multiples of 7? The first thing I would do is divide by 7 to simplify to 37x+ 83y= 1. What I would now do is essentially what you did. 37 divides into 83 twice with remainder 9: 83- 2(37)= 9. 9 divides into 37 four times with remainder 1: 37- 4(9)= 1. Replacing "9" in that by "83- 2(37)" gives 37- 4(83- 2(37))= 9(37)- 4(83)= 1. Comparing that to "37x+ 83y= 1" we have x= 9 and y= -4. Of course then x= 9+ 83n and y= -4- 37n gives 37(9+ 83n)+ 83(-4- 37n)= 37(9)+ (37)(83n)- 83(4)- (37)(83n)= 1.
 

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