Solv'g Displacement Diff for 2 Points w/ 30 Deg. Phase Diff Given f, v

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The discussion centers on calculating the distance between two points with a phase difference of 30 degrees in simple harmonic motion (SHM). Given a frequency of f = 20 sec-1 and a velocity of v = 80 m/s, the wavelength (λ) is determined to be 4 m. The correct calculation for the distance between the two points, based on the phase difference, is derived using the formula 2π(x2-x1) = π/6, resulting in a distance of x2-x1 = 1/12 m. The confusion arises from the application of the wave number (k) in the phase difference calculation.

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I've got a review question on classical waves (SHM) where I'm given the frequency as f = 20 (sec^-1) and velocity v = 80m/s.
The question is: How far apart are two points whose displacements are 30 degrees apart in phase?

My own reasoning doesn't seem to agree with the solution I was provided.

Here is my thinking:
Phase = wt +/- kx
For the first point, let x = x1 and t = t.
For the second point, let x = x2 (and t = t)
So then the phase difference would be (wt-kx1) - (wt-kx2) = k(x2-x1).
Then, given v and f, lambda = v/f = 4 m, so k = 2pi/lambda = pi/2.
So phase difference, which is given to be 30 degrees, or pi/6 rad, becomes:
pi/6 = (pi/2)(x2-x1) -where solving for x2-x1 gives an answer of 1/3.

The solution I was given says that the phase difference = 2pi(x2-x1) = pi/6, which gives x2-x1 = 1/12.

I don't understand how the 2pi comes into it!
Could someone tell me where my thinking went wrong?
 
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Hi tigger88,

Your answer looks right to me. Another way of thinking about it would be to say that two points with displacement 360 degrees apart in phase would be one wavelength apart in distance, and since 30 degrees is 1/12 of 360 degrees, the distance you're looking for is 1/12 of a wavelength.
 

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