Solving a Homogenous ODE: Integrals Involved

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The discussion revolves around solving a homogeneous ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by (x^2+y^2)dy-y^2 dx =0. Participants are exploring the integration techniques involved in the solution process.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of variables using v = y/x and the resulting integrals. There are attempts to simplify the integrals through partial fractions and completing the square. Questions arise regarding the integration of irreducible quadratics.

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Some participants have provided guidance on handling the integrals, particularly in relation to partial fractions and completing the square. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges posed by the irreducible quadratic term, with suggestions for substitution methods to facilitate integration.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available or the methods they can use. The discussion reflects various interpretations of the integration process and the mathematical reasoning behind them.

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Homework Statement


the homogenous ode
[tex](x^2+y^2)dy-y^2 dx =0[/tex]


Homework Equations



[itex]v=\frac{y}{x}[/itex]


The Attempt at a Solution


worked al the way here [tex]\int \frac {1}{v^2-v(1+v^2) }dv + \int\frac{v^2}{v^2- v(1+v^2)} = \int \frac {dx}{x}[/tex]
how do i handle the integrals ?
 
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I would first put it back together again:
[tex]\int\frac}(1+ v^2)dv}{v^2- v- v^3}= -\int\frac{(1+ v^2)dv}{v(v^2- v+ 1)}[/tex]
and, since it is a rational integral, use partial fractions.
 
The integral i get after getting partial fractions has me beat: i got A=1, B=-1
[tex]\int\frac {1}{-v}dv - \int\frac {1}{v^2-v+1} =\int \frac{dx}{x}[/tex]
the second integral on the left is quadratic and irriducible how is it integrated?
 
Im thinking about completing the square thus the second integral on the left becomes:
[tex]- \int \frac{dv} {(v-\frac{1}{2} )^2 + \frac{3}{4} }[/tex]
 
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Yes, that's correct. An irreducible quadratic term can always be written as [itex](v- a)^2+ b[/itex] and then the substitution [itex]u= (v- a)/\sqrt{b}[/itex] reduces it to [itex](1/b)(1/(u^2+ 1))[/itex] and the integral is an arctangent.
 
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Thanks
 

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