Solving a Recurrence Relation with Multiple Roots

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The discussion revolves around solving a recurrence relation defined as an = 5an−1 − 3an−2 − 9an−3 for n ≥ 3, with specified initial values a0 = 0, a1 = 11, and a2 = 34. The characteristic equation derived from this relation is x³ - 5x² + 3x + 9, leading to the identification of roots, including multiplicity considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the characteristic roots of the recurrence relation, with one participant attempting to express the general solution involving the roots. Questions arise regarding the validity of the identified roots and their implications for the solution structure.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the identified roots and questioning the correctness of the original poster's findings. Some guidance is offered regarding the need to ensure the general solution holds for all n, not just for n ≥ 3.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on ensuring that the derived expressions satisfy the initial conditions provided, and participants are examining the relationship between the roots and the terms in the general solution.

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Homework Statement



Solve the recurrence relation
an = 5an−1 − 3an−2 − 9an−3 for n ≥ 3
with initial values a0 = 0, a1 = 11, and a2 = 34.

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its given lol

The Attempt at a Solution



I found that the characteristic equation for this rr is x3 - 5x2 + 3x + 9 and found that the characteristic roots are 3, 3, -1...because we have 2 indistinct roots, I multiplied one of the 3 terms by n to get

an = r3n + sn3n - t
and so plugging back into the give rr we have

r3n + sn3n - t = 5(r3n-1 + s(n-1)3n-1 - t) - 3(r3n-2 + s(n-2)3n-2 - t) - 9(r3n-3 + s(n-3)3n-3 - t)

I'm thinking that in order to solve this, we're going to have to set this up as a system of equations, but I'm not sure how to do that with what I have. Any hints/tips/ suggestions on where to go next would be very helpful.
 
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an = r3n + sn3n - t

Given this, then r,s and t must be equal to what for you to have a0 = 0, a1 = 11, and a2 = 34? This above expression must be valid for all n, after all, not only for [itex]n\geq 3[/itex].

By the way, you claim that one of your roots is -1; are you sure that the above is entirely correct?
 
JSuarez said:
By the way, you claim that one of your roots is -1; are you sure that the above is entirely correct?

To see if a root exists, we would plug it into the characteristic equation. When -1 is plugged into the equation, we obtain 0, therefore it is a root of the equation. Corollary, I saw that 3 was a root in same fashion, and found that it was a root of multiplicity 2 when I plugged it into the derivative. This was how we were showed to find the roots.
 
I don't have any doubt that -1 is a root: it is. But, if 3 is a root (forget the multiplicity for a moment) and it gives rise to a term 3n in the solution, then what would be the term corresponding to -1?
 

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