Solving a Strange Derivative Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around differentiating the function f(t) = (t^5 + t^6 - 1) / t^7. Participants are exploring the appropriate methods for finding the derivative, particularly focusing on the use of the quotient rule and simplification techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial attempts at differentiation, with one suggesting a direct application of the quotient rule while others propose simplifying the function first. There are questions about whether the initial differentiation approach is correct and what steps should follow.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on using the quotient rule and others suggesting that simplification may be a viable approach. There is no clear consensus on the best method yet, as different interpretations are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of recognizing the need for simplification before applying differentiation rules, while others emphasize the necessity of the quotient rule in this context. The original poster's understanding of the problem setup is also questioned.

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Homework Statement


f(t)=\frac{t^5 + t^6 - 1}{t^7}


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The Attempt at a Solution


This is different than the other problems I've been doing.

My first guess would be that I would do this:
f(t)=\frac{5t^4 + 6t^5}{7t^6}
Is that the final answer or is there another step I need to do?
 
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Or simply write it as the sum

t^-2 + t^-1 - t^-7
 
nicksauce said:
Or simply write it as the sum

t^-2 + t^-1 - t^-7

Hey, thanks that was really helpful! I didn't think of dividing by t^7.

That made it easy! Thank you! I'll remember this if I get another similar problem!
 
neutron star said:
f(t)=\frac{t^5 + t^6 - 1}{t^7}

The Attempt at a Solution



My first guess would be that I would do this:
f(t)=\frac{5t^4 + 6t^5}{7t^6}
Is that the final answer or is there another step I need to do?
As already noted, this is wrong. If you carried out this differentiation without simplifying first, you would need to use the quotient rule. whs has already provided a link to an article on differentiation rules, so I won't give that link again. The upshot is that if f(x) = g(x)/h(x), f'(x) is NOT equal to g'(x)/h'(x), which is precisely what you did.
 
U must use quotient Rule!
 
fan_103 said:
U must use quotient Rule!
That's not necessary in this problem. As nicksauce already suggested, the OP can carry out the division and then use the sum rule and the power rule.
 

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