Solving a Trig Equation (Correct?)

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The problem involves rewriting the expression sin x - cos2x - 1 in factored form as an algebraic expression of a single trigonometric function. The context is trigonometric identities and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various attempts to manipulate the expression using trigonometric identities, such as the Pythagorean identity. Questions arise regarding the correctness of certain steps and the nature of the solutions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered partial guidance on how to approach the problem, including suggestions to substitute identities and explore the resulting expressions. There is an acknowledgment of the need to factor the entire expression rather than simply solving it.

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There are concerns about providing complete answers, and participants express a desire to maintain the integrity of the learning process. The discussion also touches on the limitations of certain solutions based on the range of the sine function.

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Homework Statement


Write this expression in factored for as an algebraic expression of a single trig function (e.g., (2 sin x+3)(sin x-1):

sin x - cos2x - 1

Homework Equations


cos2x + sin2x = 1

The Attempt at a Solution


1) cos2x + sin2x = 1
2) sin2x = 1-cos2x
3) -cos2x = cos2x so sin2x = -cos2x+1

But the problem calls for -cos2x-1. Would the resulting function be sin2x - (-sin2x)?

4) sin x (sin x + sin x)

I'm not certain that I did it correctly :redface:
 
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Recheck your third statement. -cos2x is not equal to cos2x except when the cosine is 0.
 
Hi CaptainADHD! :smile:

Please don't give out complete answers on this forum.
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi CaptainADHD! :smile:

Please don't give out complete answers on this forum.

Well, having the rank of captain the the attention deficit and impulse control army doesn't go well with discretion.

Can you give me the power to edit my old posts or something? I don't want to get myself banned.
 
CaptainADHD said:
Can you give me the power to edit my old posts or something?

I think there's only a 24-hour "edit window".
 
I will help you a little bit.

cos2x=1-sin2x

Substitute for cos2 in sinx-cos2x-1. After doing the mathematical operations, you will get quadratic equation at the end which you need to find out, and write in the form: a(x-x1)(x-x2), where a is the coefficient before y2
(ay2+by+c=0)
 
Strange a quadratic equation with seemingly two solutions, but only one works?
 
@JANm
Look at the first post. The question is how to "factor" the whole expression, not to solve it.

If the question was to solve it, than one of the solutions will worked out? Why?

Because -1 \leq sin(x) \leq 1, so sin(x)=-2 will not be the solution.
 
So we get sin^2(x)+sin(x)-2,
(sin(x)-x_1)*(sin(x)-x_2),
x_1,2=(-1+/-sqrt(1+8))/2=> x1=1, x2=-2,
the factorisation is (sin(x)-1)*(sin(x)+2).
 

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