Solving an equation involving factorials

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The discussion focuses on finding positive integer solutions (x, y) for the equation 1/x + 1/y = 1/N! where N is a natural number. It establishes that for any solutions, the relationship x + y mod xy = 0 must hold, leading to the conclusion that y is bounded by 2N!. The conversation also notes that x = y = 2N! is a trivial solution, and suggests that there are finite solutions for N > 2. Additionally, it explores the rational solutions to the equation N!x + N!y - xy = 0, revealing that these can be expressed in terms of a rational parameter t. The findings indicate a structured approach to solving the equation, highlighting both integer and rational solutions.
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Splitting the reciprocal of a factorial into a sum of reciprocals of positive integer

I'm interested in finding all positive integers x, y such that {1 \over x} + {1 \over y} = {1 \over N!}, N \in \mathbb{N}. I think it's best to gather as many properties of solutions as possible, to make this problem as computationally simple as possible. I'm not sure if there's a closed form solution for (x, y) here. This is trivial for small N, but let's take N > 2.

If x, y are solutions for a given N!, we immediately get {{x + y} \over {xy}} = {1 \over N!} \implies {{xy} \over {x + y}} = N!. Since the right-side is an integer, we get x + y \mod xy = 0. Also, x = y always gives the solution x = y = 2N!, so let's assume without losing generality that x > y > 1.

Anything else ...? Maybe even a rapid solution?
 
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Without loss of generality, we can assume that x>y., But then

\frac{2}{y}\geq \frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y}=\frac{1}{N!}

So 2N!\geq y.

So this shows that there are a finite number of solutions, and that all solutions must have

y\in \{1,2,...,2N!\}

Of course, this is only a small step and won't help in solving the general case.
 
No, the number of solutions is a pretty cool result. Thanks!
 


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I'm interested in finding all positive integers x, y such that {1 \over x} + {1 \over y} = {1 \over N!}, N \in \mathbb{N}. I think it's best to gather as many properties of solutions as possible, to make this problem as computationally simple as possible. I'm not sure if there's a closed form solution for (x, y) here. This is trivial for small N, but let's take N > 2.

If x, y are solutions for a given N!, we immediately get {{x + y} \over {xy}} = {1 \over N!} \implies {{xy} \over {x + y}} = N!. Since the right-side is an integer, we get x + y \mod xy = 0. Also, x = y always gives the solution x = y = 2N!, so let's assume without losing generality that x > y > 1.

Anything else ...? Maybe even a rapid solution?
For a given N, whenever {-yN! \over N! - y} is an integer you should have a solution. Just solved for x.
 
OK, let's delve some deeper. I suggest reading http://mathcircle.berkeley.edu/BMC4/Handouts/elliptic/node4.html

In general, you want to know the integer solutions to

N! x+N! y-xy=0

You already know such a solution (0,0). Now there's an easy way to find all the rational solutions (of which there are infinitely many).

We consider all lines through (0,0) with rational slope. These lines have the form y=tx or x=0. Each of these lines will intersect our conic in another point, which will be rational. In fact, let's calculate the intersection of y=tx and our conic N! x+N! y-xy=0

Substiting y=tx in the equation of the conic yields

N! x+t N! x- tx^2=0

Thus

x((1+t)N!-tx)=0

thus x=0 or x=\frac{(1+t)N!}{t}. The corresponding y is y=(1+t)N!.

So all the rational solutions are of the form

x=\frac{(1+t)N!}{t}~\text{and}~y=(1+t)N!

with t rational.
 
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