Solving Basic Stokes Theorem Homework on Ellipse

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The discussion focuses on applying Stokes' Theorem to calculate the circulation of the vector field F around the ellipse defined by 4x^2 + y^2 = 4 in the xy-plane. The curl of the field, calculated as nabla cross F, is determined to be 2k, while the normal vector to the surface is confirmed to be k. Participants express confusion about the gradient of the function defining the ellipse and whether to parameterize it for the double integral. It is clarified that the normal vector should be k, and the integration can be simplified by recognizing the constant nature of the integrand, allowing for the use of the area formula for the ellipse. The conversation emphasizes understanding the correct application of normals and integration techniques in the context of Stokes' Theorem.
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Homework Statement


Use the surface integral in stokes theorem to find circulation of field F around the curve C.
F=x^2i+2xj+z^2k
C: the ellipse 4x^2+y^2=4 in the xy plane, counterclockwise when viewed from above



Homework Equations


stokes theroem: cirlulation=double integral of nabla X F.n d(sigma)


The Attempt at a Solution


i got nabla cross F is 2k
for the normal, aint it just k? coz I am getting confused by if i let g(x,y,z)=4x^2+y^2-4=0 (the elispe)
isnt n=grad(g)=8xi+2yj
im confused with this

also should i parameterize the ellipse?
im not sure how I am meant to set the double integral out?
im really lost, any help please?
 
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Right, curl(F)=2k and n=k. What's the dot product? You want to integrate that dx*dy over the interior of the ellipse 4*x^2+y^2=4. From here on the problem is not that different than finding the area of an ellipse or a circle using a double integral. Take a deep breath and try it. If you're clever, you'll notice the integrand is a constant so you don't have to integrate at all if you know a formula for the area of the region.
 
thanks, its just isn't the normal grad(g), or am i getting this confused with somethig else?
 
You are getting it confused with something else. You want the normal to the region in the x-y plane, which is k, as you said. grad(4x^2+y^2-4) is normal to the elliptical cylinder 4x^2+y^2-4=0.
 
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