Solving Calculus: Derivative of x(t)

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of a function defined as x(t) in the context of calculus. Participants are exploring the application of the chain rule and the treatment of differentials in this scenario.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the chain rule and expresses confusion regarding the treatment of differentials. Some participants question the validity of the substitution presented in the textbook, suggesting alternative expressions for differentials.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights and alternative perspectives on the differentiation process. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in treating x as a function of t, and some guidance has been provided regarding the integration of such functions.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the treatment of differentials and the implications of defining u as x(t). The discussion reflects a need for clarity on these concepts, particularly in the context of calculus rules and substitutions.

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I am trying to repair my rusty calculus. I don't see how du = dx*dt/dt, I know its chain rule, but I got (du/dx)*(dx/dt) instead of dxdt/dt, if I recall correctly, you cannot treat dt or dx as a variable, so they don't cancel out. so for (du/dx)(dx/dt) to become dxdt/dt, du/dx must equal to dt, which is not...
 

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What the book has is a bit absurd. If ##u = x(t)##, then ##u## and ##x## are the same function. That's not really a substitution. Instead, you can use

##dx = \frac{dx}{dt} dt##

Directly.
 
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PeroK said:
What the book has is a bit absurd. If ##u = x(t)##, then ##u## and ##x## are the same function. That's not really a substitution. Instead, you can use

##dx = \frac{dx}{dt} dt##

Directly.
thank you, I see, so it doesn't matter if x is a function of t, we just integrate it regularly?
 
EastWindBreaks said:
thank you, I see, so it doesn't matter if x is a function of t, we just integrate it regularly?

If you have an integral in ##x##, you have an integral in ##x##. It doesn't matter that you can express ##x## as a function of another variable. In a way, you can always do that.
 
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