Solving Electric Field with 3 Point Charges: Find q1 & q2

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The discussion revolves around finding the magnitudes of two point charges, q1 and q2, given that the resultant electric field at a specific point due to three point charges is zero. The context involves electric fields and their calculations in a system of point charges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationships between the electric fields produced by the charges and question the setup of their equations. They discuss the definitions of angles and coordinate axes, and some participants express uncertainty about their calculations.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the equations governing the electric fields, with some participants providing corrections and others confirming results. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the relationships between the variables involved, although there is no explicit consensus on the final values of q1 and q2.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential mistakes in their initial setups and calculations, particularly regarding the distances and angles used in their equations. There is also mention of substituting values into equations to derive results, indicating a focus on the mathematical relationships rather than definitive outcomes.

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Homework Statement



IF the resultant electric field at D due to the three point charges is zero, find the magnitudes of q1 q2 in terms of q
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Homework Equations


Electric Field

The Attempt at a Solution


Ex = E(q1) + E(q2)x = k q1 / AB^2 + k q2 cosθ / BD^2
Ey = E(q2)y + E(q) = k q2 sinθ / BD^2 + k q / CD^2
must be
k q2 cosθ / BD^2 = - k q1 / AB^2
k q2 sinθ / BD^2 = - k q / CD^2
then
q1 = q AB^2 / (tanθ CD^2)
AB = CD
tanθ = AB / BC
then
q1 = q BC / AB = 2 q
and
q2 = - q1 BD^2 / (cosθ AB^2)
cosθ= BC / BD
then
q2 = - q1 BD^3 / (BC AB^2) = - q (BD / AB)^3 = -11,2 q

Did i make some mistake here?
 
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WeiLoong said:
Ex = E(q1) + E(q2)x = k q1 / AB^2 + k q2 cosθ / BD^2
I don't think this should be AB here.

The rest looks fine, but you should define the coordinate axes and the angle in some way.
 
Oopss! :woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

Correction
Ex = E(q1) + E(q2)x = k q1 / AD^2 + k q2 cosθ / BD^2
Ey = E(q2)y + E(q) = k q2 sinθ / BD^2 + k q / CD^2
must be
k q2 cosθ / BD^2 = - k q1 / AD^2 ...(1)
k q2 sinθ / BD^2 = - k q / CD^2 ...(2)
(2)/(1) I got
tanθ = (q/CD^2)(AD^2/q1)
q1 = q. (AD^2/tanθ.CD^2)
q1=8q
Did i make some mistake here?
 
Looks right.

You also need q2.
 
Yea i am stucked here T_T
Can i just sub 8q into eq(1)?
 
So i got q2 = (-8q/AD^2)(BD^2/cos)
q2=-11.18q am i doing right?
 
I get the same result.
 
thanks!
 

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