Solving Equations: Exact and Decimal Forms

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The discussion focuses on solving two trigonometric equations: 1 = 8cos(2x + 1) - 3 and 1 = 8tan(2x + 1) - 3. The first equation simplifies to cos(2x + 1) = 1/2, which has solutions, while the second equation leads to a nonreal solution when incorrectly manipulated. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying algebraic rules, particularly when isolating terms and handling constants. The correct approach involves recognizing the principal values of cosine and tangent functions to find valid solutions. Ultimately, the discussion highlights common pitfalls in solving trigonometric equations and the need for careful algebraic manipulation.
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Find a solution to the equation if possible.
Give the answer in exact form and in decimal form.

1 = 8cos(2x + 1) - 3
1 = 8tan(2x + 1) - 3

I don't know how to do this one.. but I know how to do the simpler ones like..

2 = 5sin(3x)
2/5 = sin(3x)
(sin-1(2/5)) / 3 = 0.137172

Those are easier... but the one I've said before...

1 = 8cos(2x + 1) - 3 is tough..
1/8 = cos(2x + 1) - 3
3.125 = cos(2x + 1)
{[cos-1(3.125)] / 2} - 1

Is this correct thus far, and if it is... cos-1(3.125) is nonreal. So I guess there are no solutions...

How about this one?

1 = 8tan(2x + 1) - 3
1/8 = tan(2x + 1) - 3
3.125 = tan(2x + 1)
{[tan-1(3.125)] / 2} - 1 = -0.369453

But, the right side doesn't evaluate to 1 when you plug -0.369453 in for x :frown:

I don't know where to go with these.
 
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First, this is a "calc and beyond" and this is a trig question. Second, call the argument something like u. The problem "looks" a whole lot easier this way. Next try chaning the tangent function into another form, namely sines and cosines. You'll find the answer falls out rather quickly.
 
Jacobpm64 said:
1 = 8cos(2x + 1) - 3 is tough..
1/8 = cos(2x + 1) - 3
Ouch! You probably learned that multiplying by 8 on one side, is dividing by it on the other side.
However: there's the -3 that has to go first! It's better to remember the rules:
- you may multiply both sides with a non-zero number
- you may add the same number to both sides

Now, if you'd want to get rid of the 8, you'd have to multiply both sides with 1/8, but that would also give -3/8 on the right side, and no longer a -3.
What you would probably do is first add 3 to both sides (i.e. changing sides of -3), giving 1+3 = 8cos(2x + 1). Now you can remove the 8, giving:

4/8 = cos(2x + 1) <=> cos(2x + 1) = 1/2.

And a cosine can surely be 1/2, so this will have a solution, actually two.
You're making the same mistake with the tan-equation.
 
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haha, sometimes it's fun to laugh at our own stupidity...

Why did I think the right side was a monomial for some reason? I guess I just didn't look at it like I should have. This is a lot easier than I was making it out to be.

Thanks for pointing out my idiocy though lol.
 
so, let's try that again...

1 = 8cos(2x + 1) - 3
4 = 8cos(2x + 1)
1/2 = cos(2x + 1)

Where do I go from here? .. I'm not sure

{[cos-1(1/2)] / 2} - 1 = -0.476401

But that answer doesn't work when plugged back in for x..
 
You made the same mistake again, you got to cos-1(1/2)=2x+1 OK, but then you divided by 2 without dividing the 1!
 
cos(u)= 1/2 gives u= \frac{2\pi}{3} as principal value.
Now, you have 2x+1= \frac{2\pi}{3}. Solve that for x.
 

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