Solving Fluid Dynamics Problem: Granite Floating in Mercury & Water

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The discussion revolves around a fluid dynamics problem involving a piece of granite floating at the interface of mercury and water. Participants explore how to derive the ratio of the volume of granite submerged in water to that submerged in mercury, considering the densities of granite, water, and mercury.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about solving the problem and attempts to apply principles of fluid dynamics, particularly buoyancy and pressure.
  • Another participant references Archimedes' principle, stating that the mass of the fluid displaced equals the mass of the object displacing the fluid, and provides a mathematical formulation based on this principle.
  • The mathematical relationship derived includes the equation relating the volumes of granite in water and mercury, leading to the ratio of volumes expressed in terms of the densities.
  • A later reply indicates understanding of the approach taken, confirming the logic behind equating the mass of granite to the masses of the displaced fluids.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the final answer to the problem, but there is agreement on the application of Archimedes' principle and the method of relating the masses and volumes involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the specific answer choices provided in the original problem, and the derivation steps may depend on assumptions about the densities and the specific configuration of the granite in the fluids.

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Hi I am solving some problems in fluid dynamics I came to this problem that I don't understand how to solve it.


A piece of granite floats at the interface of mercury and water contained in a beaker (Fig.). If the densities of granite, water and mercury are ρ, ρ1 and ρ2 respectively, the ratio of the volume of granite in water to the volume in mercury is
(a) (ρ2 – ρ) /(ρ – ρ1)
(b) (ρ2 + ρ) /(ρ+ ρ1)
(c) ρ1 ρ2 /ρ
(d) ρ1 /ρ2
(e) ρ2 /ρ1

figure of problem is here -->
http://www.apphysicsresources.com/2009/07/ap-physics-b-multiple-choice-questions.html



I tried to approach it like this. we know that the granite will sink so we know that the pressure that water will put on the granite until given height will be the same as buoyancy force of mercury,which is same as weight displaced.

But I couldn't solve it in the end in terms of those variables I don't also understand the derivation in that link.

Thanks in advance.
 
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sorry to bump this but I really need to understand this problem I hope this isn't against the rules.
 
Well start with Archimedes principle: The mass of the fluid displaced equals the mass of the object displacing the fluid.

The mass of the granite is
\rho (V_1 + V_2)

The mass of displaced water is
\rho_1 V_1

The mass of the displaced mercury is
\rho_2 V_2

So, we have
\rho (V_1 + V_2) = \rho_2 V_2 + \rho_1 V_1

\rho V_1 + \rho V_2 = \rho_2 V_2 + \rho_1 V_1

\left(\rho - \rho_1\right) V_1 = \left(\rho_2-\rho\right) V_2

\frac{V_1}{V_2} = \frac{\rho_2-\rho}{\rho - \rho_1}
 
I see so we just made the mass of granite to be the amount it displaces on water and the amount it displaces on mercury. that makes sense.
Thanks.
 

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