Solving for Angle of Elevation: p = 12.67°

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The problem involves a small ball projected from the top of a vertical pole with a specific speed and angle of elevation, requiring the determination of the angle based on its trajectory and the effects of gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for both horizontal and vertical components, with some questioning the signs used in the vertical motion equation. There is also a discussion about the direction of the ball's projection relative to gravity.

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There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the equations and the physical setup of the problem. Participants are providing guidance on correcting signs in equations and clarifying the nature of the ball's projection.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made regarding the direction of the ball's motion and the effects of gravity, as well as the accuracy of the equations used in the calculations.

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A small ball is projected with a speed of 10 m/s at an angle of elevation of p from the top of a vertical pole whose height is 15 m from the level ground. The ball hits the ground at a point whose horizontal distance from the foot of the pole is 20 m . Find the value of p . gravity=10 m/s^2

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Consider horizontal motion , s=Vx t

20=10 (cos p) t

t=2/(cos p) --1

Consider vertical motion,

15=10 (sin p)(2/(cos p))+1/2 (10)(2\(cos p))^2

15 cos^2 p -20 sin p cos p -20 =0

3 cos 2p - 4 sin 2p=1

5 cos (2p+53.13)=1

2p+53.13=78.46

therefore , p=12.67 degrees

Am i correct ?
 
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15=10 (sin p)(2/(cos p))-1/2 (10)(2\(cos p))^2

Till the above step you are right except one sign. Next

15 = 20tan(p) - 20sec^2(p)

Put sec^2(p) = 1 + tan^2(p) and solve for tan(p)
 
rl.bhat said:
15=10 (sin p)(2/(cos p))-1/2 (10)(2\(cos p))^2

Till the above step you are right except one sign. Next

15 = 20tan(p) - 20sec^2(p)

Put sec^2(p) = 1 + tan^2(p) and solve for tan(p)

Thanks but isn't the ball being projected downwards which is in the path of the gravity pull ?
 
thereddevils said:
Thanks but isn't the ball being projected downwards which is in the path of the gravity pull ?
Projected at an angle of elevation means up against the gravitational pull.
 
Be careful with your signs in your equation for the vertical position. We can use, since the acceleration due to gravity is approximately constant:

[tex]\Delta y \equiv y_{f}-y_{0}=v_{y}t+\frac{1}{2}at^{2}[/tex]

If we define our coordinate system so that up is positive and down, negative then we are given

[tex]y_{0}=+15, v_{y}=+10sin(p), a=-g=-9.8[/tex]

Since it starts out above the ground and is shot with an initial velocity up and gravity pulls it down.
 
rl.bhat said:
Projected at an angle of elevation means up against the gravitational pull.

got it , thanks
 

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