Solving for Charges on Suspended Spheres

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two suspended spheres, each with a mass of 50 mg, that are charged and repel each other, causing the strings to form an angle of 6 degrees. The original poster seeks assistance in determining the charges on each sphere and the nature of the charges.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply relevant equations to find the charges, while expressing uncertainty about combining concepts. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the forces acting on the spheres and the angles involved in the setup.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the forces acting on the spheres. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the problem and the angles involved, with a focus on clarifying the vector components of the forces.

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There is a noted concern about the accuracy of the angle used in calculations and the implications of the charge types, as well as the potential for misunderstanding due to the combination of multiple physics concepts.

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Hi ^^! I was doing my physics homework and had a little trouble doing this one, so I was wondering if anyone could help me out if they had time. It would mean a lot, but thanks anyway just for reading this ^_^! I appreciate it =)

Homework Statement



Two spheres, each having a mass of 50 mg, are suspended from a common point by massless threads 50 cm long. One of the spheres has been given a charge twice that of the other. The strings make an angle of 6 degrees.

What are the charges on each of the spheres?
What kind of charge is on each sphere (+ or -)? Explain

Homework Equations


F = kq1q2/r^2
Q = Ne
F = ma
q_1 = 2q_2

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, assuming that the charges are not coming close together, they must be repelling each other. As such, I thought there must be some kind of acceleration... F = 2ma = 2(50 x 10^-6 kg)(9.8 m/s^2) = 9.8 x 10^-4 N
In addition, if I use sin6 = x/.5m, I can tell the distance separating the charges is .0523 m.
Now that I found the F, I plugged it into the first equation
9.8 x 10^-4 N = (9x10^9)(q_1)(q_2)/(.0523 m^2)
(q_1)(q_2) = 2.978 x 10^-16 C
2q_2^2 = 2.978 x 10^-16 C
q_2 = 1.22 x 10^-8 C
q_1 = 2q_2
q_1 = 2.44 x 10^-8 C

As for the kind of charge, I said that it is impossible to tell except that the must both be either positive or negative, not one and the other, because otherwise there would not be a 6* angle separating them.
 
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^^;; Does anyone agree/disagree? I'm just a bit worried, because I usually don't understand how to do these kinds of problems even though I understand the equations individually.. I guess I have trouble combining two or more topics? At any rate, if possible,any direction on where I went wrong would be very helpful :). Thank you (even just for reading this!)
 
Force of gravity pulls the spheres straight down. The force on each sphere is its mass times gravity (i.e. - look at each sphere separately). The force from the charge pushes the spheres apart horizontally. The vector sum of the forces is enough to deflect each string 3 degrees - i.e - This statement is not true: 9.8 x 10^-4 N = (9x10^9)(q_1)(q_2)/(.0523 m^2)

By the way, you got lucky on the small angle. You don't have a right triangle with a 6 degree angle; you have two right triangles with a 3 degree angle. With angles that small, the difference is negligle, especially since you're using a rounded off value for k.
 
Oh, I see, I can set up a diagram with mg pointing down and F as the horizontal component. As such,
tan 3* = x / (50 x 10^-6)(9.8)

I solve for x as the force, and then the other equation I had before was right.. I just used the wrong force.

Thanks! :D
 

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