Solving for distance with frictionless inclined plane

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block sliding up a frictionless inclined plane after being pushed with a certain amount of work. The subject area includes concepts of work, force, and potential energy in the context of inclined planes.

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  • Participants explore different methods to determine the distance the block travels up the incline, including calculating the force parallel to the ramp and considering the relationship between work and potential energy. Questions arise regarding the setup of equations and the meaning of variables involved.

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Some participants have provided multiple approaches to the problem, suggesting different ways to analyze the situation. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct method or solution.

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Participants are discussing the implications of a frictionless surface and the definitions of terms such as work and potential energy. There is a noted uncertainty regarding the interpretation of angles and forces in the equations presented.

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A physics student shoves a 0.5 kg block from the bottom of a frictionless 30 degree plane. The student performs 4 joules of work and the block slides a distance "s" along the inclined pane before it stops. Find the value of s
W = (F * Cosθ) * D
I plugged in 4 joules for work, multiplied .5 kg by gravity(9.8) to get the force of the object which is 4.9N

Equation I got for solving for D is:

Not sure if algebra is correct

d = work / F * Cosθ

d = 4 / 4.9 * cos30

d = .94 meters (rounded)

Did I setup the equation correctly for D correctly and then solve properly?
d =

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There are two ways you can approach this problem.
1. Figure out the force required to push the mass up the ramp that is parallel to the surface of the ramp. Then use W = F X D to find D

2. Since there is no friction, the work will be the change in potential energy of the mass. How high will the mass have to be raised to do 4 J of work. Then figure out how far to slide the mass to raise it this ammount.
 
ya no clue what that means but thank you for trying
 
Approach 1. Draw a diagram with the mass on the inclined ramp. What is the component of the weight (mg) that acts down the ramp? This is the force you have to overcome.

Approach 2. The work done is equal to the change in potential energy of the mass. As you push it up the ramp, the height increases and so does the potential energy. If you know the increase in height, you can easily find how far you have to push the mass up the ramp to achieve this height.
 
physicsballer2 said:
W = (F * Cosθ) * D
To use a formula successfully, you need to know what the terms in represent. What do you think theta represents in the above equation? Which angle is that in this problem?
 

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