Solving for F to Hold a Box Still on a Ramp w/ Friction

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The discussion focuses on deriving a general formula for the force (F) required to hold a box stationary on a frictional ramp. The final equation presented is F=(m*g*sinθ2) / (cosθ1 + μs*sinθ1), where θ1 is the angle of the box and θ2 is the angle of the ramp. The analysis includes the effects of static friction (μs) and emphasizes the importance of balancing forces in both horizontal and vertical directions. Two conditions for the force are identified: pushing and pulling, each affecting the normal force and friction differently.

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Homework Statement


Write a General Formula solving for F to hold a box still on a ramp with friction.

there is no numbers in this, only variables

Homework Equations



F=ma

F=force m=mass a=acceleration θ=angle μs=static friction g=gravity

The Attempt at a Solution



i drew a free body diagram to separate the forces into components and plugged in the forces acting on the box to keep it from sliding of the frictioned ramp into F=ma

ma=Fcosθ1 - [(μs*Fsinθ1) + (m*g*sinθ2)]

then, i made ma equal to 0 b/c the box isn't moving so a is 0

0=Fcosθ1 - (μs*Fsinθ1) + (m*g*sinθ2)

This is the final equation i came up w/ after solving for F
F=(m*g*sinθ2) / (cosθ1 + μs*sinθ1)

would this be correct?
 
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Instead of making a=0 later its better you balance all the forces in horizontal and vertical direction since box is in equilibrium

There will be two conditions :
1) F is pushing force 2) F is pulling force

if condition (1), the Normal force increases thus increasing friction and just opposite in condition (2). You haven't mentioned what is θ2
 


theta2 is the angle the ramp is sloping at. theta1 is the angle the box is sloping at.

And do you mean have 1equation for horizontal forces and 1 equation for vertical? I am not sure what you mean
 

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