Solving for Integer Pairs: 1 + 2^x + 2^(2x+1) = y^2

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The discussion focuses on finding all integer pairs (x, y) that satisfy the equation 1 + 2^x + 2^(2x+1) = y^2. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of potential solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests substituting 2^x with z, simplifying the equation to 1 + z + 2z^2 = y^2, and derives conditions for integer solutions.
  • Another participant mentions specific integer values of y (1, 2, 4) that seem to satisfy the condition but expresses uncertainty about a more general solution.
  • A different approach is presented, noting that for x = -1, the left-hand side does not yield a square, leading to the conclusion that x must be non-negative.
  • Participants identify pairs (0, 2) and (4, 23) as solutions while questioning the existence of additional solutions for x > 4.
  • Further analysis involves factoring the equation and exploring the properties of consecutive integers, leading to conditions on k and b in derived equations.
  • Corrections are made regarding earlier statements about the right-hand side of the equation and its implications for the solutions.
  • Participants confirm that the solutions found are (0, 2), (0, -2), (4, 23), and (4, -23), but express curiosity about whether there are more solutions or a general formula.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the identified solutions but express uncertainty about the completeness of the solution set and whether a general formula exists. No consensus is reached regarding the existence of additional solutions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their approaches, such as the need for further exploration of integer conditions and the implications of powers of two in the derived equations.

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Determine all pairs (x, y) of integers such that
1 + 2^x + 2^(2x+1) = y^2.

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If you assume 2^x=z then the equation reduces to 1+z+2z^2=y^2.
Completing the square results in (4z+1)^2+7=8y^2. Substituting z=2^x and taking log2 gives,

x+2=log<sub>2</sub>(-1 <sup>+</sup><sub>-</sub>\sqrt{8y^2-7}).

For all integral values of x, LHS is an integer , say k.

Now, this gives,

2^k=-1<sup>+</sup><sub>-</sub>\sqrt{8y^2-7} which is also an integer (say k1) because 2k is also an integer. Which means that \sqrt{8y^2-7} is also an integer (say k2).

So that's the final condition you arrive at. For all integer values of y for which \sqrt(8y^2-7) is an integer, x and y satisfy the above condition.
 
Dont know how to get the latex code right, but -1+-\sqrt{8y^2-7} means the positive and negative root of 8y^2-7 subtracted by 1.
 
By hand, y= 1,2,4 seems to satisfy the above condition, but analytically, maybe someone else could come up with a better solution. Dont know how to factor in the integer square condition.
 
Here is an alternate (unfinished) route.

A value of x = -1 will produce a LHS of 2, which is not a square; negative integers < -1 will not produce an integer LHS. Thus we need only be concerned with integers x >= 0.

Trying out a few values by hand, we see that the pairs (0,2) and (4,23) are solutions, and x=1,2,3 are not. So now the question becomes, is there another solution for x > 4?

With a little algebra (subtract 1 and expand the RHS) the equation becomes
2^x (2^{x+1} + 1) = (y-1)(y+1)​
thus the RHS is the product of two consecutive evens, and y is odd. Let y = 2k+1; substituting, the RHS will become 2k(2k+1) = 4k(k+1). Dividing by 4 and replacing n = x-2 (with n > 2), we get
2^n (2^{n+3} + 1) = k(k+1)​
Now one of k or k+1 is odd; the other will be divisible by 2^n (as a matter of fact, since 2^{n+3} + 1 is odd, 2^n is the greatest power of 2 that divides the RHS).

If we could prove that no integer n > 2 satisfies the above, we would be done. The requirement of exactly n 2's among the prime factors of the RHS only sieves candidates, but does not provide a bound for k.

My hunch is that something has to become broken when the powers of two get bigger, i.e. that the LHS cannot be expressed as a product of two consecutive integers (for n=2 it can, though).
 
Ok, I will attempt to finish Dodo's solution. Just to recap, he subtracted 1 from both sides of the equation to factor the difference of squares. Since the LHS is even, it's not hard to see that y must be odd so he set y = 2k + 1 to arrive at

2^x(2^{x+1} + 1) = 2k(2k+2) \Rightarrow 2^{x-2}(2^{x+1}+1) = k(k+1).

Furthermore, he set n = x - 2 but this time I'm going to put a different condition on n so that n \geq -2 because we want to find solutions for x \geq 0.

So after applying the conditions, we have

2^n(2^{n+3} + 1) = k(k+1), n \geq -2

Now consecutive integers are relatively prime and therefore, 2^n | k or 2^n | k+1.

Case 1: 2^n | k \Rightarrow k = a2^n for some integer a &gt; 0. Plugging this back into our last equation, we get 2^n(2^{n+3}+1) = a2^n(a2^n + 1) \Rightarrow a^22^n + a = 2^{n+3} + 1 \Rightarrow 2^n(a^2 - 2^3) = 1 - a \Rightarrow 2^n = \frac{1-a}{a^2 - 8}. For a &gt; 2, the RHS is negative, which is a contradiction. a cannot be 1 either, but for a = 2, we have 2^n = \frac{1}{4} \Rightarrow n = -2 \Rightarrow x = 0. Hence (0,2) and (0, -2) are solutions.

Case 2: 2^n | k + 1 \Rightarrow k = b2^n - 1 for some integer b &gt; 0. Applying the same technique as in the first case, we have 2^n(2^{n+3} + 1) = (b2^n - 1)(b2^n) \Rightarrow b^22^n - b = 2^{n+3} + 1 \Rightarrow 2^n(b^2 - 8) = 1 + b \Rightarrow 2^n = \frac{1+b}{b^2 - 8}. For b &gt; 3, it's easy to see we won't find any solutions for n. Similarly, we won't find any solutions for b &lt; 3 since the RHS will be negative (except our trivial solution which occurs when b = -2, but we assumed allowably b &gt; 0). Thus, we find that b = 3 \Rightarrow n = 2 \Rightarrow x = 4 gives us our other pair of solutions, (4, 23) and (4, -23)

Note that we find our solutions in pairs because of the y^2 term in the original equation so (x, -y) is a solution whenever (x, y) is. Thus our solutions are (0, 2), (0, -2), (4, 23), and (4, -23)
 
There is a small mistake in Dodo, where he says: the RHS will become 2k(2k+1) = 4k(k+1), since he really means 2k(2k+2) = 4k(k+1).

I don't understand this use of RHS, or is it LHS? Oh! From reading snipez90, I see it means nothing more than left or right side of the equation.
 
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snipez90 said:
Note that we find our solutions in pairs because of the y^2 term in the original equation so (x, -y) is a solution whenever (x, y) is. Thus our solutions are (0, 2), (0, -2), (4, 23), and (4, -23)
Thanks for answer(and for solution)
CORRECT ANSWER :(x, y)- (0, 2), (0,−2), (4, 23), (4,−23)
 
özgürden said:
Thanks for answer(and for solution)
CORRECT ANSWER :(x, y)- (0, 2), (0,−2), (4, 23), (4,−23)

Thats it? Just 4 solutions? Shouldnt there be a general formula or something?
 
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chaoseverlasting: Thats it? Just 4 solutions? Shouldnt there be a general formula or something?

Snipez90 did good work on that problem, I don't find any errors. So I guess we just have to accept it.
 

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