Solving for K and M in Quick Question ( y = mx + c )

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving the relationship between variables in the equation T^2 = (0.10K)d^2 + 0.042Km, where T^2 is plotted on the y-axis and d^2 on the x-axis. The original poster seeks to find values for K and m, relating this to the linear equation format y = mx + c.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate their equation to the linear form y = mx + c and questions how K fits into this relationship. Some participants suggest rewriting the equation and exploring the gradient to find K, while others express uncertainty about the definitions of variables and how to proceed without known values for K and m.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the equation and the relationships between variables. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the gradient and y-intercept, but there remains a lack of consensus on the definitions and values of K and m.

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There is uncertainty regarding the values of K and m, as well as the definitions of the variables involved in the equation. The original poster has indicated a willingness to provide additional information if needed.

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[SOLVED] Quick Question ( y = mx + c )

Okay, this shouldn't take long. Would it be okay if I did not show any working as I want to know how one equation related to another, which will then aid me in trying to solve the actual question. T^2 is the y-axis and d^2 is along the x-axis.

The equation of the straight line I have drawn is...

T^2=(0.10K)d^2+0.042Km

I am asked to find a value for for K, and then to calculate a value for m.

m = the effecitve mass
K = the constant for the systemNow I would have thought I would need to consturct a similtaneous equation, but I have a feeling that this equation can be linked to...

y=mx+c

Would x and y in this equation relate to my axis? What would K be? If I put the intial equation in the form y=mx+c will it work? If so here is how I would have thought it should look.

T^2=m\times d^2 + c

Now I can put in the values I have for T^2 and d^2 so...

3.13=m\times 0.026 + c

I am still not sure what c is...is it K?Any help would be great. If this does not make sense please ask for anything that isn't there and I will go and find it :-p
 
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If you know T2 and d2, you can rewrite the first equation you wrote as:

K = T2 / (0.10d2 + 0.042m)

This equation has the form y = a / (b + x), not y = mx + b.

This assumes that K depends on m.
 
The problem is that I do not know the values for m or k, so I cannot calculate either of them from that.
 
You can calculate K from the gradient. Your equation is T^2=(0.1K)d^2+0.042Km which is, on letting y=T^2 and x=d^2 in the form y=nx+c where n=0.1K and c=0.042Km. Now, what does n represent? Can you obtain this from the graph? If so, then you have K and can use your y intercept to find m.
 
What is n? n isn't in any of my calculations? I know what y and x represent but I do not know what y stands for. m is the gradient...
 
_Mayday_ said:
What is n? n isn't in any of my calculations? I know what y and x represent but I do not know what y stands for. m is the gradient...

I changed n to be the gradient when I wrote the equation y=nx+c. You've got two m's and so that's bound to be confusing. Anyway, the important point is that you have the equation in the form y=(gradient)x + (intercept). Compare this to T^2=(0.1K)d^2+0.042Km, with y=T^2 and x=d^2. What is the gradient of your graph? What is the y-intercept?
 
Gradient = \frac{T^2}{d^2}


I calculated this at 3.3, I did this by drawing a triangle onto the graph to determine this value.
 
Ok good, but I think you mean gradient= delta(T^2)/delta(d^2). Now you have that the gradient=3.3=0.1K. From this you should be able to find K.
 
Thanks for your time Cristo, much appreciated. :smile:
 
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_Mayday_ said:
Thanks for your time Cristo, much appreciated. :smile:

You're welcome!
 

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