Solving for Max Compression: 0.2kg Spring

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 0.2 kg block attached to a spring with a spring constant of 5 N/m on a frictionless surface. The block is pulled 0.12 m from its natural position and released, with the goal of determining its speed at maximal compression. Participants clarify that at maximal compression, the block's speed is zero, analogous to a ball reaching its highest point before descending. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between potential and kinetic energy in the context of spring compression. The conclusion reinforces that at maximal compression, the block does not move, highlighting a common misconception.
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Homework Statement



A bloc of 0,2 kg is attached to a spring on a horizontal surface with no friction. (The other side of the spring is attached to a wall, so it doesn't move) The spring constant is 5 N/m. If we pull on the spring, we move it by 0,12 m from its natural position and we let it go after that (It has an initial speed of 0 m/s) What is the speed when we have a maximal compression

Homework Equations


U=1/2*k*e^2
Kf+Uf=Ki+Ui

The Attempt at a Solution



I get the following equation : 0,2v^2 + 5e^2 = 0,072

I don't know what is the maximal compression !
 
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astrololo said:

Homework Statement



A bloc of 0,2 kg is attached to a spring on a horizontal surface with no friction. (The other side of the spring is attached to a wall, so it doesn't move) The spring constant is 5 N/m. If we pull on the spring, we move it by 0,12 m from its natural position and we let it go after that (It has an initial speed of 0 m/s) What is the speed when we have a maximal compression

Homework Equations


U=1/2*k*e^2
Kf+Uf=Ki+Ui

The Attempt at a Solution



I get the following equation : 0,2v^2 + 5e^2 = 0,072

I don't know what is the maximal compression !
If the compression is maximal, how much more compression can there be? :wink:
 
gneill said:
If the compression is maximal, how much more compression can there be? :wink:
Well 0...
 
astrololo said:
Well 0...
Right. So in that instant, what is the block doing? Can it continue to move to compress the spring?
 
gneill said:
Right. So in that instant, what is the block doing? Can it continue to move to compress the spring?
At that moment, the spring is pushing against the bloc to the right. I just don't know what is the position at the maximum. I know tha tmy natural position is 0.
 
astrololo said:
At that moment, the spring is pushing against the bloc to the right.
Yes, but what is the block doing in that instant?
 
gneill said:
Yes, but what is the block doing in that instant?
Ehhhhh... I think it has something do with speed ?
 
astrololo said:
Ehhhhh... I think it has something do with speed ?
Yes. Think it through. The block moves, compressing the spring until it can't compress it any further. That's maximal compression. So the block's speed at that instant is...?
 
gneill said:
Yes. Think it through. The block moves, compressing the spring until it can't compress it any further. That's maximal compression. So the block's speed at that instant is...?
It's 0 ? But I don't understand why...
 
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astrololo said:
It's 0 ? But I don't understand why...
Okay, here's an analogy. You throw a ball straight up in the air. What is the speed of the ball when it reaches is maximal height?
 
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gneill said:
Okay, here's an analogy. You throw a ball straight up in the air. What is the speed of the ball when it reaches is maximal height?
Its gooing to be 0 because the ball needs negative speed to go down.
 
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So when the block reaches the maximal compression of the spring...
 
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gneill said:
So when the block reaches the maximal compression of the spring...
OH LOL ! WHen its at the maximum it doesn't move anymore ! I guess that me and my brain who are tired today ! thank you!
 
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