Solving for Velocity: Common Mistakes and How to Get It Right Tonight

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The discussion focuses on solving for the speed of a stone thrown from a building, with participants analyzing the calculations for velocity components and potential errors. The initial velocity in the x-direction is confirmed as 25.5 m/s, while the y-component is calculated using the equation Vy = Vo*sin(ang) - gt, leading to confusion over the final speed. A participant suggests using conservation of energy as a more straightforward method, providing the formula v_f = sqrt(v_i^2 + 2gh) to arrive at a correct answer of approximately 38.05 m/s. Concerns about academic integrity in homework submissions are also raised, highlighting the challenges of preventing cheating in online environments. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding both kinematic equations and energy conservation principles in physics problems.
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For number 11(please see the attachment), I keep messing up and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

To find the answer I know I have to do this:
Speed = sqrt(Vxsquared + Vysquared)

I know that velocity of x is going to stay constant, so its v is 25.5

And for the velocity of y I did this(Vy=Vo*sin(ang)-gt):
Vy= 25.5*sin(29.1)-9.8(4.41) (time is right)
Vy= -30.82

so after plugging these values into the speed equation, I got this answer: 40.

What's wrong with this?
 
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For some reason, I can't attach the file. Here is the question.

Given: g = 9.8 m/s2
A stone is thrown from the top of a building upward at an angle of 29.1(degrees) to the horizontal and with an initial speed of 25.5 m/s. The height of the building is 40.7 m.

What is the speed of the stone just before it strikes the ground?
 
EDIT: ACK hold on... misread...
 
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anyway I tried that too got 12.4 for Vy and 28.3 for speed which is still wrong
 
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25.5m/s is the magnitude of the total velocity, therefore, it cannot be the same as the x component.
 
Damn it got it wrong again, I calculated Vx by 25.5*cos29.1 and still got the answer wrong. I only have 2 chances left to getting it right
 
What was the answer you got, NIN?
 
37.3 with my last calculation
 
That's a bit off my answer. Are you rounding off anywhere?

Vx = 25.5*cos(29.1) = 22.3
Vy = -30.8

sqrt(Vx^2+Vy^2)
 
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THANX A LOT.
 
  • #11
round off error?

plugged wrong number in?
 
  • #12
yep damn system accepts only 1% error wrong so 37.3 was wrong. 38 was right
 
  • #13
Is your prof doing anything to make sure that people aren't copying each others' work?

Submitting the HW to a website just seems like it's a quick easy way for unscrupulous students to cheat...
 
  • #14
LOL, last year the university was giving out homework by handouts, everybody cheated then. That's why they have HW on the web now. Everyone's numbers are different.
 
  • #15
Don't worry about x and y components: Use conservation of energy.

(1/2)mv_f^2=(1/2)mv_i^2+mgh

or

v_f=sqrt(v_i^2+2gh)=sqrt(25.5^2+2*9.8*40.7)=38.05
 
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krab,

I have a feeling that NIN hasn't gotten to that topic in his classes yet. It is still early in the semester.

You're right, though. Conservation is the way to go.
 
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