Solving Integral ∫x/(x^2+2x+2) dx: Tips and Explanation | Math Homework Help

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The discussion revolves around solving the integral ∫x/(x^2+2x+2) dx, which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques.

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  • Participants explore various methods for solving the integral, including completing the square and substitution techniques. Questions arise about the derivative of the denominator and its relation to the numerator, as well as the reasoning behind specific manipulations suggested by the professor.

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There is an active exchange of ideas, with some participants providing insights into different approaches, such as using u-substitution and completing the square. Confusion persists regarding certain steps and the rationale behind them, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants express uncertainty about specific manipulations and the implications of the professor's suggestions, highlighting the complexity of the integral and the need for clarification on certain mathematical principles.

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Homework Statement



Hi guys, I need help on how to go about solving this integral

∫x/(x^2+2x+2) dx

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The Attempt at a Solution



My math professor said something about "force the derivative of denominator to occur at top and compensate" but I have no idea what he means. Can somebody please help me, thanks
 
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What's the derivative of the denominator? Is it similar to the numerator?
 
SteamKing said:
What's the derivative of the denominator? Is it similar to the numerator?

It's 2x+2, do you mean I should use u substitution ?
 
I would start by completing the square in the denominator- [itex]x^2+ 2x+ 2= x^2+ 2x+ 1+ 1= (x+1)^2+ 1[/itex]
[tex]\int \frac{x}{x^2+ 2x+ 2} dx= \int \frac{x}{(x+ 1)^2+ 1} dx[/tex]

Now let u= x+ 1 so that du= dx and x= u- 1.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I would start by completing the square in the denominator- [itex]x^2+ 2x+ 2= x^2+ 2x+ 1+ 1= (x+1)^2+ 1[/itex]
[tex]\int \frac{x}{x^2+ 2x+ 2} dx= \int \frac{x}{(x+ 1)^2+ 1} dx[/tex]

Now let u= x+ 1 so that du= dx and x= u- 1.

Thanks, this is what I have tried, correct me if I'm wrong

by completing the square and u sub

∫(u-1)/(u^2+1) du

= ∫ u/(u^2+1) - ∫1/(u^2+1)

For the first integral I used a trig substitution, like this

u = tan(t)
du = sec(t)^2 dt

plugging back in I get,

∫(tan(t)*sec(t)^2)/(sec^2(t)) dt......tan(t)^2 + 1 = sec(t)^2

= ∫tan(t) dt
= ln |sec(t)|

Using the triangle thing, I get

ln|√u^2+1|

and, u = x+1, so plugging back in

ln|√(x+1)^2+1|

Final answer

ln|√(x+1)^2+1| - arctan(x+1) + C

Correct ?
 
TheRedDevil18 said:

Homework Statement



Hi guys, I need help on how to go about solving this integral

∫x/(x^2+2x+2) dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



My math professor said something about "force the derivative of denominator to occur at top and compensate" but I have no idea what he means. Can somebody please help me, thanks

Here's what your prof was suggesting:$$
\int\frac x {x^2+2x+2}~dx = \frac 1 2 \int\frac {2x}{x^2+2x+2}~dx
=\frac 1 2 \int\frac{(2x+2)-2}{x^2+2x+2}~dx =\frac 1 2\int\frac{2x+2}{x^2+2x+2}~dx
-\int \frac 1 {x^2+2x+2}$$Now the first integral is set up for the natural u substitution and the second is ready to complete the square as others have suggested. Personally, I would just complete the square in the first place as Halls has suggested. Your prof's method is sometimes useful.
 
LCKurtz said:
Here's what your prof was suggesting:$$
\int\frac x {x^2+2x+2}~dx = \frac 1 2 \int\frac {2x}{x^2+2x+2}~dx
=\frac 1 2 \int\frac{(2x+2)-2}{x^2+2x+2}~dx =\frac 1 2\int\frac{2x+2}{x^2+2x+2}~dx
-\int \frac 1 {x^2+2x+2}$$Now the first integral is set up for the natural u substitution and the second is ready to complete the square as others have suggested. Personally, I would just complete the square in the first place as Halls has suggested. Your prof's method is sometimes useful.

Thanks, I'm a bit confused though

Where did the 1/2 come from ?

and, the derivative of x^2+2x+2 = 2x+2, so where did the 2x come from ?
 
the 1/2 is a "multiply by 1" thing. Multiply x by 2 and then the whole fraction (effectively the x again) by 1/2.
 
TheRedDevil18 said:
Thanks, I'm a bit confused though

Where did the 1/2 come from ?

and, the derivative of x^2+2x+2 = 2x+2, so where did the 2x come from ?

You are trying to build a ##2x+2## in the numerator so you start by writing ##x = \frac 1 2\cdot 2x##. Then you add and subtract ##2##. That's what your prof meant by forcing the derivative of the denominator into the numerator.
 
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BiGyElLoWhAt said:
the 1/2 is a "multiply by 1" thing. Multiply x by 2 and then the whole fraction (effectively the x again) by 1/2.

Oh, yes I see, but isn't that suppose to be 2x+2 (referring to integral with the 2x) as that's the derivative of the denominator ?
 

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