Solving Integration Question Using L'Hopital's Rule - Step by Step Guide

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The discussion focuses on evaluating an integral using L'Hopital's Rule, particularly in the context of limits approaching zero. Participants confirm that the integral from a point to itself, such as from 0 to 0, equals zero due to the fundamental theorem of calculus. They explore the applicability of L'Hopital's Rule when faced with indeterminate forms like 0/0. There is a consensus that the limit does not diverge and remains zero, reinforcing the understanding of integrals with finite limits. The conversation emphasizes the importance of rigorous justification in mathematical proofs.
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Hi,

Homework Statement


I'd appreciate some help in computing the integral in the attachment.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I presume it should be handled using L'hopital, but I am not sure how to demonstrate that that is indeed the case.
 

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Yes, I'Hopital will be applied. Consider using the fundamental theorem of Calculus as well.
 
But L'hopital applies for 0/0, for instance. How is that the case here?
 
peripatein said:
But L'hopital applies for 0/0, for instance. How is that the case here?

As x → 0, the upper limit tends to 0 and since the lower limit is already zero, we know ##\int_{a}^{a} f dt = 0##. ( and the function f in your example is continuous near x = 0)
 
Is it rigorous/formal enough, to simply state that int [a,a] f dt = 0?
 
peripatein said:
Is it rigorous/formal enough, to simply state that int [a,a] f dt = 0?

I would say: $$\int_0^0 f\,dt = F(0) - F(0) = 0,$$ since a function cannot have one to many as an option.

If I recall correctly, and perhaps someone could confirm, it is not possible to evaluate that integral (analytically) if the limits are finite (i.e something like 0 to ##a##, ##a## a real number).
 
Is it true then that the limit diverges?
 
peripatein said:
Is it true then that the limit diverges?
I wouldn't figure so quickly. So we have justified using i'Hopital. Now apply i'Hopital.
(the bit about your integrand not being integrable with finite limits was just for interest. It doesn't really relate to this problem since the region of int. is [0,0] and provided an integral exists this is always zero if those are your bounds).
 
peripatein said:
Is it true then that the limit diverges?

I don't think so, but I hurried through it, so I could have made a mistake.
 
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No, it is equal to zero. Thanks!
 
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peripatein said:
No, it is equal to zero. Thanks!
That's what I got too ... zero.
 

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