Solving Inverse Laplace Transform w/ Convolution Integral: Ch 8, Sec 10 #3

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse Laplace transform using the convolution integral, specifically for the expression involving \(\frac{p}{(p^{2}-1)^{2}}\). Participants express confusion regarding the steps involved in applying the convolution integral after determining the inverse transforms.

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of finding the inverse Laplace transform before applying the convolution integral. There are questions about the correct form of the convolution integral and its application to the problem.

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Some participants have attempted to find the inverse transform and are comparing their results with the textbook. There is an ongoing exploration of the convolution process, with some expressing uncertainty about their approach and results.

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Participants note discrepancies between their results and the textbook, indicating potential misunderstandings of the convolution integral's application. There is also mention of specific forms of functions involved in the convolution.

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Boas Ch. 8, Sec. 10 #3

Use the convolution integral to find the inverse transforms of:
<br /> \frac{p}{(p^{2}-1)^{2}} = \frac{p}{p^{2}-1} \frac{1}{p^{2}-1}<br />

I'm completely confused with these things. Are we supposed to figure out the inverse Laplace transform and then use that within our convolution integral? I am completely lost. Just looking for some advice, thanks.

I know the convolution integral takes the form of:
<br /> \int_{-\infty}^\infty\,f(x)g(z-x)dx<br />
 
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mateomy said:
Boas Ch. 8, Sec. 10 #3

Use the convolution integral to find the inverse transforms of:
<br /> \frac{p}{(p^{2}-1)^{2}} = \frac{p}{p^{2}-1} \frac{1}{p^{2}-1}<br />

I'm completely confused with these things. Are we supposed to figure out the inverse Laplace transform and then use that within our convolution integral? I am completely lost. Just looking for some advice, thanks.

I know the convolution integral takes the form of:
<br /> \int_{-\infty}^\infty\,f(x)g(z-x)dx<br />

For functions defined on [0,∞) the convolution is, instead:
\int_0^z f(x) g(z-x) \, dx \text{ for }z \geq 0.
And yes, you are supposed to figure out the inverse Laplace of p/(p^2-1), then do a convolution, exactly as it says.
 
Just to clarify, you mean '..inverse Laplace of
<br /> \frac{p}{(p^{2}-1)^{2}}
right?
 
So far...
<br /> \int \frac{p}{(p^{2}-1)^{2}}dp
getting...
<br /> \frac{-1}{2(p^{2}-1)}

Now do I look for the inverse transform? Because If I do that my answer slightly varies from the book's. Boas shows:
<br /> \frac{tsinht}{2}
whereas I'm getting
\frac{sinht}{2}

..hmmm?

(thanks for the help)
 
However, if I actually paid attention to what you had said maybe I'd be doing something different. I'll try the 'real' method now...
 
After finding my inverse transform, being cosh(at)sinh(at) I used their exponential forms to integrate.
<br /> \int_0^\infty \left(\frac{e^{at}+e^{-at}}{2}\right)\frac{e^{at}-e^{-at}}{2}dt
...which I end up getting
<br /> \frac{1}{2}\left(cosh(at)-t\right)
which still isn't right.

Clearly, I'm confused.
 
That's not a convolution integral. You want to convolve sinh and cosh.
 
Then I'm even more lost...
 
Look at Ray's integral in post #2 and yours. Yours doesn't have a ##z##. I'm not sure how you came up with your integral.
 

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