Solving Isobaric Expansion Homework Problem - 871.395 J

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The problem involves an isobaric expansion of nitrogen gas, where 5.00 g of the gas at an initial pressure of 2.00 atm and a temperature of 22.0 °C undergoes a volume increase to three times its initial volume. The main question is about calculating the heat energy transferred to the gas during this process.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of moles of nitrogen gas and conversions of temperature and pressure. There is an attempt to apply the ideal gas law to find initial and final volumes, as well as the work done during the expansion. Some participants express confusion about the correctness of the work calculation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on applying the First Law of Thermodynamics and the distinction between specific heats at constant pressure and constant volume. There is an acknowledgment of the need to use the correct specific heat in the context of isobaric processes. Multiple interpretations regarding the behavior of pressure during the expansion are being explored.

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Participants note that the problem specifies an isobaric process, implying that pressure remains constant throughout the expansion, which raises questions about the assumptions made regarding pressure changes.

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Homework Statement


5.00 g of nitrogen gas at 22.0 deg C and an initial pressure of 2.00 atm undergo an isobaric expansion until the volume has tripled.

A. How much heat energy is transferred to the gas to cause this expansion?


Homework Equations



Equation of Isobaric thermodynamic: W = -p(delta V)
Ideal Gas Law: PV=nRT

The Attempt at a Solution


Get the number of moles of the N2 gas: N2 = 28 g/mol ; moles = 5/28
Convert 22 deg C to Kelvin: 273.15 + 22 = 295.15 K
Convert 2.00 atm to Pascals: 2 atm = 202 650 pascals
R is 8.31
Find V initial:
PV = nRT
(202650)V = 0.1786(8.31)295.15
Vi = 0.0022
Find V final: Vf = 3(Vi) = 0.0065

Now Find the Work done:
W = -p(DELTA V)
Since pressure stays constant at 202,650 Pascals then:
W = -202650(0.0065-0.0022) = 871.395 J

However this is wrong, and I do not understand why. Can someone walk me through this problem?
 
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A. How much heat energy is transferred to the gas to cause this expansion?

Homework Equations



Equation of Isobaric thermodynamic: W = -p(delta V)
Ideal Gas Law: PV=nRT

The Attempt at a Solution


Get the number of moles of the N2 gas: N2 = 28 g/mol ; moles = 5/28
Convert 22 deg C to Kelvin: 273.15 + 22 = 295.15 K
Convert 2.00 atm to Pascals: 2 atm = 202 650 pascals
R is 8.31
Find V initial:
PV = nRT
(202650)V = 0.1786(8.31)295.15
Vi = 0.0022
Find V final: Vf = 3(Vi) = 0.0065

Now Find the Work done:
W = -p(DELTA V)
Since pressure stays constant at 202,650 Pascals then:
W = -202650(0.0065-0.0022) = 871.395 J

However this is wrong, and I do not understand why. Can someone walk me through this problem?

Start with the first law. Since P is constant:

[tex]\Delta Q = \Delta U + P\Delta V[/tex]

Since [itex]\Delta U = nC_v\Delta T[/itex]

[tex]\Delta Q = nC_v\Delta T + P\Delta V[/tex]

Find the change in T using PV = nRT to find the heat flow [itex]\Delta Q[/itex]

AM
 
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I'm not familiar with the procedure for this type of question, but it says that 2.00 atm is the initial pressure. I would guess that it would change.

However, as I said, I don't know. Sorry if this is wrong.
 
Thanks for directing me to the First Law of Thermodynamics. I have never thought of using the relationship.

However, for the record, I did realize that it should be C_p not C_v as it is the specific heat of the gas at constant pressure.
 
amdma2003 said:
Thanks for directing me to the First Law of Thermodynamics. I have never thought of using the relationship.

However, for the record, I did realize that it should be C_p not C_v as it is the specific heat of the gas at constant pressure.
You can certainly use Cp to find the heat flow (Cp takes into account the work done in the expansion):

[tex]\Delta Q = nC_p\Delta T[/tex]

Change in interal energy is ALWAYS [itex]\Delta U = nC_v\Delta T[/itex].

If P is constant:

[tex]\Delta Q = nC_p\Delta T = nC_v\Delta T + P\Delta V[/tex]

But [itex]\Delta V = nR\Delta T/P[/itex] so

[tex]\Delta Q = (nC_v + nR)\Delta T[/tex] so

[tex]C_p = C_v + R[/tex]

AM
 
Vidatu said:
I'm not familiar with the procedure for this type of question, but it says that 2.00 atm is the initial pressure. I would guess that it would change.
The problem states "isobaric expansion", so pressure does not change. The volume does change as also stated.
 

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