Undergrad Solving Lagrangian Equation: Confused About Term Missing?

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The discussion revolves around confusion regarding the application of the Lagrangian mechanics to a specific equation. The user presents a Lagrangian and questions the absence of a term when differentiating with respect to time. Respondents suggest forming the Euler-Lagrange equation to clarify the missing components. They recommend subtracting the partial derivative of the Lagrangian with respect to x1 from the time derivative of the momentum term to resolve the confusion. The key takeaway is the importance of correctly applying the Euler-Lagrange formulation in Lagrangian mechanics.
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Hello! I have a classical Lagrangian of the form $$L=A\dot{x_1}^2+B\dot{x_2}^2+C\dot{x_1}\dot{x_2}cos(x_1-x_2)- V$$ the potential is irrelevant for the question and A, B and C are constants. When doing $$\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x_1}}$$ the solution gives this: $$2A\ddot{x_1}+C\ddot{x_2}cos(x_1-x_2)+C\dot{x_2}^2sin(x_1-x_2)$$ I am a bit confused. Don't we miss a term? At a point we do $$\frac{d(C\dot{x_2}cos(x_1-x_2))}{dt}$$ and they seem to treat ##x_1## as a constant. Don't we need to obtain $$C\ddot{x_2}cos(x_1-x_2)-C\dot{x_2}sin(x_1-x_2)(\dot{x_1}-\dot{x_2})$$? What am I missing? Thank you!
 
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Silviu said:
the solution gives
Solution of what? Shouldn’t you form the Euler-Lagrange equation?
What am I missing?
Subtract \frac{\partial L}{\partial x_{1}} = - C \dot{x}_{1} \dot{x}_{2} \sin (x_{1} - x_{2}) - \frac{\partial V}{\partial x_{1}}, from your expression for \frac{d}{dt}\left( \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}_{1}}\right) .
 
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