Solving Linear Equation: y' = 4ln|x|-2x^2y/x^3

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The discussion revolves around a first-order linear differential equation given by y' = (4ln|x| - 2x^2y)/x^3. Participants explore the classification of the equation and the methods for solving it, including the use of integrating factors.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of the equation, with some asserting it is linear while others express confusion over the classification. There are attempts to rewrite the equation in standard form and identify the functions P and Q. Questions arise regarding the validity of the original poster's approach and the potential need for numerical methods.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the equation being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on identifying the correct form and the use of integrating factors, while others have pointed out errors in the original assignments of P and Q.

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There is mention of textbook definitions and the original poster's struggle with the terminology and methods related to linear differential equations. The conversation reflects uncertainty about the proper approach to solving the equation.

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I'm told that this is a linear equation

[tex]y' = \frac{4ln|x| - 2x^2y}{x^3}[/tex]

2. The attempt at a solution

[tex]x^3 = (4ln|x|-2x^2y)\frac{dx}{dy}[/tex]

giving:
[tex]P = 4ln|x|-2x^2[/tex]
[tex]Q = x^3[/tex]
[tex]\int Pdx = 4x-\frac{2x^3}{3}[/tex]
[tex]e^\int^p^d^x = e^4^x^-^\frac^{2x^3}^{3}[/tex]
[tex]ye^\int^p^d^x = \int e^4^x^-^\frac^{2x^3}^{3} x^3[/tex]

I know this is too complicated and ugly.. It has to be wrong so far...
 
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That is not a linear equation. Linear equations have the property that if y_1 and y_2 are solutions, then so is A*y_1+B*y_2. Your solution seems to consist of just throwing symbols around at random. The form of the equation doesn't make me think there is any way to get a closed form solution. If you really need to solve it you may have to try numerical techniques.
 
my textbook describes it as "first order linear DE"

I'm suppose to solve the equation by putting it into the form [tex]\frac{dy}{dx} + Py = Q[/tex]

then integrate
 
Ok. But then your assignments of P and Q don't look at all right. Concentrate of the form in 1) and try again.
 
I see. It's an 'integrating factor' trick. Forgot.
 
is that what it's called? because I can not find anything on the internet that helps me with I look for liner equation DE
 
Just go by your book. But you've identified P and Q wrong.
 
That is, in fact, a linear equation for y as a function of x. Rewriting to
[tex]\frac{dx}{dy}[/tex] however gives you a non-linear equation for x as a function of y. There is no reason to do that.

The equation
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{4ln|x|-2x^2y}{x^3}[/tex]
can be rewritten as
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}+ \frac{2}{x}y= \frac{4 ln|x|}{x^3}[/tex]

Now you are looking for an "integrating factor" [itex]\mu(x)[/itex] such that
[tex]\mu(x)\frac{dy}{dx}+ \mu(x)\frac{2}{x}y= \frac{d(\mu(x)y}{dx}[/tex]
doing the derivative on the right, this reduces to
[tex]\mu(x)\frac{2}{x}y= \frac{d\mu(x)}{dx}y[/tex]

In other words we must have
[tex]\frac{d\mu(x)}{dx}= \frac{2}{x}[/itex]<br /> That's an easy separable equation.<br /> <br /> Solve it to find [itex]\mu(x)[/itex] and the rest is easy.[/tex]
 
Mmm. I was waiting for him to identify the P and Q. Sorry about my confusing gaffe in saying it was not linear.
 
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S'awright!
 

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