Solving Methanol Evaporation Problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving the evaporation of methanol in a sealed room. Participants explore the application of gas laws and phase changes to determine whether all the methanol will evaporate and how much, if any, will remain as liquid. The focus is on the theoretical aspects of gas behavior and the calculations involved in the scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The initial poster presents a calculation using the ideal gas law but expresses uncertainty about its application to the liquid methanol.
  • One participant suggests calculating the mass of methanol first to determine the number of moles, indicating that the ideal gas law should only be applied to gases.
  • The same participant notes the necessity of making an assumption about the presence of air in the room or whether it is evacuated before introducing methanol.
  • The initial poster acknowledges the oversight regarding the phases of matter and expresses gratitude for the guidance received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to reconsider the application of the ideal gas law in the context of the problem, but there is no consensus on the final outcome regarding the amount of methanol that will remain unevaporated.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the assumptions regarding the room's air content or the specific calculations needed to determine the remaining liquid methanol.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in thermodynamics, phase transitions, and the application of gas laws in practical scenarios.

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Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone could help me out with this problem?

If you place 10.0L of methanol (CH4O) in a sealed room that is 3 m long, 1.75 m wide, and 2.5 m high, will all the methanol evaporate? If some liquid remains, how much will there be? The vapor pressure of methanol is 127 torr at 25 degrees C, and the density of the liquid at this temperature is 0.791 g/mL.

I'm not quite sure how to get this problem started.

I know that 127 torr = 127 mmHg/760 mmHg = 0.167 atm
and PV = (10.0 L)(0.167 atm) = 1.67 L*atm
and PV = nRT
n=PV/RT
=(0.167 atm)(10.0 L)/(0.0821 L*atm/K*mol)(298 K)
=0.0683 mol

but I'm not sure if I'm on the right track or how to fit these pieces together. could somebody please, please, please help me?
 
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You are in the right chapter but not the right track. The gas law doesn't work for the 10L of liquid methanol... only for gases.

Calculate how many grams of methanol you have in 10L and from that you can calculate the number of moles. Use the ideal gas law only to find out how many theoretical moles of gas are possible in the room. You will need to make an assumption as to whether the room contains air or is evacuated before the methanol is introduced.
 
Ah you're a genius! I can't believe the difference in phases didn't even cross my mind.
 
Thanks a lot Chemisttree! I have found the errors of my ways (and there were a few). Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
 

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