Solving Mohr's Circle: Deriving Principal Stresses & Strains

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This discussion focuses on deriving principal stresses and strains using Mohr's Circle, particularly in the context of a rosette gage with strain values of 100 epsilon, 200 epsilon, and 300 epsilon at 60 degrees. The participants emphasize the graphical Pole method for determining principal stress directions and the relationship between shear and normal stresses. Key formulas for calculating principal strains are provided, including R and φ, which are essential for understanding the graphical representation of stress states. The conversation highlights the importance of geometry in solving these problems effectively.

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  • Understanding of Mohr's Circle for stress analysis
  • Familiarity with strain gage measurements and rosette configurations
  • Knowledge of stress-strain relationships, including Young's Modulus
  • Basic geometry skills for graphical methods
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  • Study the graphical Pole method for deriving principal stresses
  • Learn how to construct Mohr's Circle for different stress states
  • Explore the mathematical derivation of principal strains using provided formulas
  • Review examples of stress analysis using rosette gages in engineering applications
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Hey. I've been having some trouble getting through Mohr's circle. The googles that I've found haven't been too useful. I've seen several questions of the same calibre and what I generally need is how to derive the magnitude/direction of the principal strains as well as the principle stresses when given a set up like a rosette gage with 3 strains at 60degrees, with for example 100 epsilon - 200 epsilon- 300 epsilon on each axis. If you can show me an example solution or the general procedure, preferably illustrated, I'd be that much wiser.
Thanks in advance.
 
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draw the stresses on a shear-normal coordiate system.
shear: cw+, ccw-
normal: tension+, compressive-.
connect two tips of shear stress, angle between the line and normal axis is double of stress angle.

when you have mohr's circle done, the maximum coordinates of the circle can reach will be principle stresses.

Read your book and do some examples, it's not a hard topic.
 
I don't have acess to any books to refer to. I don't need help with signage. It's not the difficulty, it's the lack of a detailed methodology.
I can find the principal strains for 45 through formulas using:
R=[0.5(εA-εB)2+0.5(εB-εC)2]^1/2
φ=0.5tan^-1[(2εB-εA-εC)/(εA-εC)]
on the strain system. I have another set for 60. I can then find the stresses through the stress/strain relationship as I have the Young's Modulus and the v value.

What I'm looking for however is the purely graphical Pole method which has been poorly described. If anyone can assist with me that, I'd be much obliged. Thanks.
 
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Hope this may help.

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Thank you. I certainly appreciate you having taken the time to take those pictures!
 
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Since you can find 2\varphi, the angle between principle stress and normal stress is \varphi. If you draw your mohr's cicle, the rest will be only a metter of rotating \varphi degress from horizontal axis to find principle stress direction. In geometry, round angle is half of centre angle; that's where pole comes from. From above picture, you can see the angle between blue line and horizontal axis is \varphi (Orange line is parallel to horizontal axis).

For stresses on any other planes, no matter pole or whatever, just use your geometry skills. It won't be more difficult than your middle school geometry class.

Good Luck.
 
I am not sure whether you finish your work. If not, send me you data and I will show it to you.

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