Solving Problems with the Chain, Product, and Quotient Rule

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The discussion revolves around applying the Chain, Product, and Quotient Rules in calculus to find the equation of a tangent line and to determine stationary points for given functions. The original poster presents two specific problems involving derivatives and tangent lines.

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  • Participants discuss the need to apply different differentiation rules to solve the problems. There is a request for clarification on the correct form of the first equation, indicating potential confusion about the problem setup. Some participants suggest that the original poster should show their attempts to identify where they are struggling.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing formulas for differentiation rules while encouraging the original poster to engage more actively by showing their work. There is a collaborative atmosphere where guidance is offered, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the working stages needed to arrive at the answers, indicating a lack of clarity in their understanding of the application of the differentiation rules. There is also a question regarding the correct interpretation of the first equation, which may affect the approach taken.

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Hello everybody
I would also like to solve the following problem using either the Chain,Product, or Quotient Rule but am unsure of the working stages to get to the given answers

i) Find the equation of the tangent at the point with coordinates (1,1) to the curve with the equation y=(X2+3)/x+3

ii) Given that y=xe-3x find dy/dx and hence find the coordinates of the stationary points on the curve y=xe-3x


Again, help with the workings would be much appreciated.
Answers:
i) 4y=x+3
ii) (1-3x)e-3x , (1/3,1/3e-1)
 
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I'll give you the two formulas you will need to use but YOU need to do the working for them. When you post the working, then we can proceed to the rest of the problem.


For y=\frac{u}{v}

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{v\frac{du}{dx}-u\frac{dv}{dx}}{v^2}


for y=uv

\frac{dy}{dx}=v\frac{du}{dx}+u\frac{dv}{dx}


And note that dy/dx is a gradient function, so at any x point in a curve,once you have dy/dx you can find the gradient at that point x.
 
In the first equation, is just x in the denominator or should the equation be
y=(x2+3)/(x+3) ?
 
Hi Timiop2008! :wink:

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:

(you use the product rule for products, the quotient rule for quotients, and the chain rule for combinations, and you may have to use more than one)
 

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