Solving Sliding Wire Problem: Determine Magnitude & Direction of Current

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The problem involves a conducting wire on a frictionless incline in a vertical magnetic field. The objective is to determine the magnitude and direction of the current required to keep the wire at rest on the incline, considering the forces acting on it.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the wire, including gravitational components and magnetic forces. There is an attempt to relate these forces mathematically, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the setup and the application of relevant equations.

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Some participants have provided equations relating the forces, while others have questioned the angles involved and the application of the right-hand rule. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces and the current direction, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants express confusion regarding the geometry of the problem and the application of the right-hand rule. There is also mention of a free-body diagram, which suggests a need for clarity on the forces involved.

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Homework Statement



A straight piece of conducting wire with mass M and length L is placed on a frictionless incline tilted at an angle theta from the horizontal. There is a uniform, vertical magnetic field vecB at all points (produced by an arrangement of magnets not shown in the figure). To keep the wire from sliding down the incline, a voltage source is attached to the ends of the wire. When just the right amount of current flows through the wire, the wire remains at rest.

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Determine the magnitude of the current in the wire that will cause the wire to remain at rest.
Express your answer in terms of the variables M, theta, L, B, and appropriate constants.

Determine the direction of the current in the wire that will cause the wire to remain at rest.

In addition viewing the wire from its left-hand end, show in a free-body diagram all the forces that act on the wire.

Homework Equations



dF = Idl ×B
or possible the bio-stavart law.. I'm not sure

The Attempt at a Solution



the current must be directed from the right to the left i think?

other than that, unsure how to start, just chasing a hint or beginning to work from.

thanks heaps.
 
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ok so force pulling the wire down:

F=masinθ
= -9.8Msinθ

so for the rest:

F=ILBsinθ
9.8Msinθ=ILBsinθ
9.8M=ILB
I=9.8M/LB ??
 
and the current would go to the left, determined by the right hand rule?
 
EvanQ said:
and the current would go to the left, determined by the right hand rule?
Yes, but be careful with the angles. The angle between current and magnetic field is 90°, and so the resulting force points horizontally. One has to ensure that the force on the wire parallel to incline matches the weight component down the incline.

In this geometry, the angle between magnetic field and current is not the angle of the incline.
 
9.8Msin180=ILBsin90??
 
really confused sorry :(
 
Think in 3D. You know the force F_b=\vec{B}\times \vec{i}L. Here the force is perpendicular to both the current and the magnetic field. Using the left hand rule, find out the direction of the current, and the equate the appropriate components.
 

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