Solving Squirrel Work Problem with Line Integral Setup

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the work done by a squirrel climbing a cylindrical tree along a helical path, defined by a parametric equation. The context is rooted in vector calculus, specifically line integrals, and the application of force in the context of work done against gravitational force.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the line integral and the representation of the squirrel's weight as a force vector. There is uncertainty about how to incorporate the weight into the integral and how to proceed with the calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the force vector to use and the setup of the integral. There is acknowledgment of the integral's structure, but uncertainty remains regarding the application of concepts like potential energy and the specifics of the integral's evaluation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that this problem is not part of a physics course, which may limit their familiarity with concepts like potential energy. There is also a mention of the need to check the integral's setup against known physics principles.

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Homework Statement


A squirrel weighing 1.2 pounds climbed a cylindrical tree by following the helical path

[itex]x = \cos{t}, y = \sin{t}, z = 4t, 0 \leq t \leq 8 \pi[/itex]
(distance measured in feet)

How much work did it do?

Homework Equations



[itex]\int_{C} \vec{F} \cdot d\vec{r}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I've defined a curve [itex]C[/itex] by the vector

[itex]\vec{r}(t) = \cos{t} \vec{i} + \sin{t} \vec{j} + 4t \vec{k}[/itex],
[itex]0 \leq t \leq 8 \pi[/itex]

I'm not sure where to go from here. Specifically, I don't know how to use the weight of the squirrel. Every other problem I've worked on explicitly gave me a vector field to work with.

I know the bounds of the integral will be from 0 to 8π, and that r'(t) will be used.

Thanks in advance!
 
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The squirrel's weight points straight down. Try ##\vec F = \langle 0,0,-1.2\rangle##. And remember the line integral gives the work done by the force. You should be able to check your answer by comparing the change in potential energy.
 
Got it, thanks.

So I should get my answer with the following integral:

[itex]W = \int^{8\pi}_{0} (0\vec{i} + 0\vec{j} - 1.2\vec{k}) \cdot (-\sin{t}\vec{i} + \cos{t}\vec{j} + 4\vec{k}) dt ?[/itex]

This isn't for a physics course, and we haven't learned anything about potential energy. If the integral's setup is right, though, I can't take it from there.
 
I'm not still new at line integrals so take this with a grain of salt.
SithsNGiggles said:
So I should get my answer with the following integral:

[itex]W = \int^{8\pi}_{0} (0\vec{i} + 0\vec{j} - 1.2\vec{k}) \cdot (-\sin{t}\vec{i} + \cos{t}\vec{j} + 4\vec{k}) dt ?[/itex]
Take the dot product inside the integral, and integrate the answer.


This isn't for a physics course, and we haven't learned anything about potential energy. If the integral's setup is right, though, I can't take it from there.
Potential energy close to the Earth is [itex]E_p=mgh[/itex] so [itex]W=mgΔh[/itex] with m being mass, g gravitational acceleration and h is the heigth.
 
Sorry, I meant I can take it from there. Thanks though!
 

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