Solving Static Problems: Get Started with Hints

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The discussion revolves around static problems in physics, specifically focusing on forces and equilibrium in systems involving masses and tensions. The original poster seeks guidance on two particular problems related to these concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin solving the problems and questions the reasoning behind mass distribution in one of the problems. Participants suggest considering the components of forces and the equations of equilibrium, while also discussing the implications of hinge alignment in the context of rotational equilibrium.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problems, offering hints and prompting the original poster to clarify their understanding. There is a mix of interpretations being explored, particularly regarding the application of equilibrium principles and the relationships between the masses involved.

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The original poster has not yet attempted any calculations and is seeking hints rather than complete solutions. There is a reference to specific answers for the problems, which may influence the discussion but are not being directly addressed in the reasoning process.

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I have no idea on how to start these two problems. I haven't done any work, but please give me some hints on how to get started.

The two problems are here
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For problem 14, the anskwer are 1.2kg, .3kg, and .1kg
for 15, the answers are 54.9N,95N,170N.

For problem 14, I know that the right of the wire extends 3 times as far to suppor the penguin. It appears to me that we divide the mass by four each time with the exception of the last time. What is the reasoing behind it?

For 15, I really have no idea. Maybe it's because I don't really understand the question.
 
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vu10758 said:
For 15, I really have no idea. Maybe it's because I don't really understand the question.

Which part don't you understand?

The force in a hinge has two components - it is convenient to set one of them to be horizontal, and the other vertical. You know the mass of the fence, and you know the tension in the cable. Think about the equations of equilibrium and try to solve the problem.
 
Take notice that since the hinges are colineal (imagine a vertical line passing through them), you should take advantage that their vertical component won't have moment if you take moment about either of the hinges.
 
I am not very happy with the answers for 14. For each of the crossbars to be in rotational equilibrium

[tex]w_l \frac{l}{3} = w_r \frac{2l}{3}[/tex]

which after cancellation comes to

[tex]m_l = 2m_r[/tex]

where the l and r subscripts refer to the masses hanging from the left and right end of the crossbar. Therefore for the topmost crossbar this comes to

[tex]2.4 = m_2 + m_3 + m_4[/tex]

or am I missing some basic principle?
 

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