Solving the Car Parking Lights Puzzle: Current, Resistance & Time Calculations

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a car's parking lights, specifically focusing on calculations related to current, resistance, and time based on a given battery specification and bulb ratings. The subject area includes concepts from electrical circuits, particularly regarding series and parallel configurations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the configuration of the bulbs, with assumptions made about them being wired in parallel. There are discussions about the validity of these assumptions and the implications for calculations. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the original poster's solution and the possibility of alternative approaches that do not rely on specific circuit configurations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing supportive feedback on the calculations while others express uncertainty about the assumptions made regarding the circuit configuration. There is a recognition that without a clear definition of the circuit type, multiple interpretations may exist, and guidance is sought on how to approach the problem without relying on series or parallel formulas.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not explicitly state the configuration of the bulbs, leading to discussions about the assumptions that can be made in automotive applications. There is also mention of the need for clarity in problem definitions to avoid ambiguity in solutions.

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Homework Statement


A total charge of 50 Ah is stored in a 12 V battery of a car. Each
of the bulbs of the four parking lights is labelled 3,6 W / 12 V.

Homework Equations


a) Find the current from the battery when only the parking lights are switched on.
b) What is the resistance of one bulb?
c) How long does it take before the battery becomes dead if the parking lights are on?
Assume that the internal resistance of the battery and the resistances of the connecting wires
are negligible.

The Attempt at a Solution


First of all. The given data does not clarify what type of circuit that the bulbs are wired, so I assume that they are wired in parallel.[/B]

(sorry I don't know how to use Tex codes. I just tried some but some work, some don't. So I'm not going to use texcode).

P=VI and I = V/R ======> P= V2/R =====> R = V2/P = 122/ 3,6 =40 (Ω)

Four bulbs are connected in parallel, so: 1/Rtotal = 1/R1+1/R2+1/R3+1/R4=4/R=4/40=10 (Ω)

the current from the battery when only the parking lights are switched on: I = V/Rtotal = 12/10=1.2 (A)

Time it takes before the battery becomes dead: t = 50/1.2 = 41.666666...~41.2 hours.


I wonder if my solution is correct ?
 

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The approach looks good. The math looks good. Have you any specific doubts?
 
My doubt is whether or not my solution is correct. Otherwise, the given data doesn't say that the 4 bulbs are connected in parallel, so is there any some solution else that does not use formula for R both in series and parallel circuit ? you know what I mean
 
Parallel is a safe assumption for automotive applications. One filament failure doesn't turn off every light on the vehicle.
 
Yes. But what if the problem solver doesn't know that lights in car are wired in parallel. That means that he must come up with a solution that does not apply formulas in both series and parallel circuits. And that is what I'm trying to find. Could you give me a solution that doesn't apply formulas in series and parallel circuits ?
 
stephenranger said:
Could you give me a solution that doesn't apply formulas in series and parallel circuits ?
If you have more than one component in the circuit you're analyzing, you've got to make a choice, or start generating solutions for every possible configuration of series and parallel arrangements of components, and leaving the choice among possible solutions to the end user.

i.e., there is no solution for an undefined problem.
 
There was somebody solved like this:
Ptotal = Px4 = 3.6x4 = 14.4 watt
I = Ptotal/V = 14.4/12 = 1.20 A
R = V2/P = 144/3.6 = 40.0 ohm
t = 50/1.2 = 41,7 hours.

He didn't use the formulas in both series and parallel circuits. Could you tell me what's different between his solution and mine ?
 
stephenranger said:
Ptotal = Px4 = 3.6x4 = 14.4 watt
This is an assumption of parallel circuits.
 
Oh thank you.
If we have series circuit. What is formula for P ?
 
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stephenranger said:
If we have series circuit. What is formula for P ?
What is R in the series circuit?
 
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Oh. Ok Thanks. I'm going to do it myself.
 

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