Solving the Constrained Lagrangian Dynamics equation for a simple pendulum

In summary, the equations discussed in the conversation are of the form of Differential algebraic Equation, of index 3. These equations include the Energy Equations and the Lagrangian equation, with constraints of x^2 + y^2 = 1, m=1, and \ell = 1. The Lagrangian equations can be integrated using an appropriate integrating factor, such as \ddot{x}\dot{x} = \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\dot{x}^2}{2} and x \dot{x} = \frac{d}{dt}\frac{x^2}{2}. A similar substitution can be made for \ddot{y}+\beta y + \gamma, bringing it
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Homework Statement
How to solve the equation of simple pendulum in Cartesian coordinates with Lagrangian multipliers for constrained forces.
Relevant Equations
with KE = 0.5*m*(xdot^2 + ydot^2) and PE = m*g*l*cos(theta) = m*g*l*(y/l)

equation comes to the form after substituting in Lagrangian equation
m*xdotdot + 2*lamda*x = 0

m*ydotdot + m*g*l + 2*lamda*y = 0

constrained to: x2 + y2 =1
mass m = 1

length l = 1

Lamda is Lagrangian multiplier

How to solve these equations of motion with this constraint ?
The equations is of the form of Differential algebraic Equation, of index 3.
 
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Just typesetting your equations for you.
Energy Equations:
[tex]KE=\frac{1}{2}m\left(\dot{x}^2 + \dot{y}^2\right),\quad PE=m g \ell \cos(\theta)=m g \ell\left(\frac{y}{\ell}\right)[/tex]
Lagrangian equation:
[tex]m \ddot{x} + 2\lambda x = 0,\quad m \ddot{y}+mg\ell + 2\lambda y = 0[/tex]
Constraints:
[tex] x^2 + y^2 = 1, \quad m=1, \quad \ell = 1[/tex]

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(one) Method of solution: The Lagrangian equations can be integrated by multiplying by an appropriate integrating factor. Example: [itex]\ddot{x}+\alpha x = 0 \to \ddot{x}\dot{x}+\alpha x \dot{x} = 0[/itex] and [itex]\ddot{x}\dot{x} = \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\dot{x}^2}{2}[/itex]. [edit: added->] Similarly, [itex] x \dot{x} = \frac{d}{dt}\frac{x^2}{2}[/itex].

Similarly for [itex]\ddot{y}+\beta y + \gamma[/itex] you can make the substitution: [itex] u = \beta y +\gamma\to \dot{u}=\beta\dot{y}, \ddot{u}=\beta\ddot{y}[/itex]. This brings it into the same form as the x equation and you may integrate via the integration factor.

This should help you get started.
 

1. What is the Constrained Lagrangian Dynamics equation?

The Constrained Lagrangian Dynamics equation is a mathematical equation used to describe the motion of a system of particles subject to constraints. It is derived from the Lagrangian function, which takes into account the kinetic and potential energy of the system.

2. How does the equation apply to a simple pendulum?

In the case of a simple pendulum, the Constrained Lagrangian Dynamics equation takes into account the constraints of the pendulum's motion, such as the length of the string and the force of gravity. It can be used to determine the position, velocity, and acceleration of the pendulum at any given time.

3. What are the steps involved in solving the equation for a simple pendulum?

The first step is to determine the Lagrangian function for the pendulum, taking into account the constraints. Then, the Euler-Lagrange equation is applied to the function to obtain the equations of motion. These equations can then be solved using numerical methods or analytical techniques to find the position, velocity, and acceleration of the pendulum at any time.

4. What are some real-world applications of solving the Constrained Lagrangian Dynamics equation?

The Constrained Lagrangian Dynamics equation is used in various fields, such as physics, engineering, and robotics, to study the motion of complex systems subject to constraints. It is also used in the development of control systems for machines and vehicles, as well as in the design of structures and mechanisms.

5. Are there any limitations to using the equation for solving a simple pendulum?

While the Constrained Lagrangian Dynamics equation is a powerful tool for analyzing the motion of a simple pendulum, it does have its limitations. It assumes that the pendulum is a point mass and neglects any external forces or friction. These factors may affect the accuracy of the results obtained from the equation.

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