Solving the Int. of Sec^3x Tan x: What is Correct?

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The problem involves evaluating the integral of secant cubed times tangent, specifically \(\int \sec^3 x \tan x \, dx\). The original poster attempts to use substitution with \(u = \sec x\) to simplify the integral.

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  • Participants discuss the substitution method and the resulting expressions. There is a focus on the correctness of the integration process and the comparison of different answers obtained. Questions arise about the validity of the original poster's approach and the implications of having different results that yield the same derivative.

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Some participants have pointed out errors in the integration process and provided corrections. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's work and suggestions for a more efficient method. The conversation reflects a mix of clarifications and alternative approaches without reaching a definitive consensus on the method.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying substitution and integration techniques. There is a mention of using graphing software to compare the derivatives of the results, indicating a practical approach to understanding the problem.

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Homework Statement


[tex] \int {\sec ^3 x\,\,\tan x\,\,dx} [/tex]



Homework Equations



[tex] u = \sec x[/tex]
This is my guess at u.

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] \frac{{du}}{{dx}} = \sec x\,\,\tan x,\,\,\,dx = \frac{{du}}{{\sec x\,\,\tan x}}[/tex]

[tex] \int {\sec ^3 x\,\,\tan x\,\,dx} = \int {u^3 \,\,\tan x\,\,\frac{{du}}{{\sec x\,\,\tan x}}} = \int {u^3 \,\,\tan x\,\,\frac{{du}}{{u\,\,\tan x}} = } [/tex]

[tex] \int {u^3 \,\,\,\,\frac{{du}}{u}} = \int {\frac{{u^3 }}{u}} du = \int {u^2 du} = 2u + C = [/tex]

[tex] 2\sec x + C[/tex]

But the back of the book says
[tex] \frac{1}{3}\sec ^3 x + C[/tex]

Playing around with it on the graphing software, I find that my answer and the book's answer produce different graphs, however, they both seem to have the problem stated in the question as their derivatives. Is one answer more correct than the other?

[tex] \frac{1}{3}\sec ^3 x + C[/tex]
hw5_5_37a.GIF



[tex] 2\sec x + C[/tex]
hw5_5_37b.GIF

 
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The integral of u2 is u3/3, not 2u. You differentiated instead of integrating.
 
oops. Thanks for catching that.
 
If the derivatives are equal, the functions can only differ by a constant. Do not accept answers as 'more correct', its right or wrong.

Edit: I just checked the post again, your working is a lot more than I'd have thought >.< Remember how substitution should be used when the function and its derivative is there? Rewrite the integral as:

[tex]\int \sec^2 x \sec x \tan x dx[/tex] Then Letting u= sec x, [tex]\int u^2 du[/tex], which seems faster to me ...just a tip.
 
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Thanks, Gib. I checked the derivatives with the graphing software, dragging the derivative bar across the function, and watching it tangentally ride the curves of the function. But double checking this after fixing my error, I realized that the derivatives are almost, but not quite identical.

Thanks for the shorter method. We both got to u^2 du, but it took me more steps.
 

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