Solving Trigonometry Equations: Confused about Cos4x?

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The discussion revolves around solving trigonometric equations, specifically focusing on the equation cos(4x) = 1 + 8cos^4 - 8cos^2. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the different approaches to rewriting cos(4x) and the resulting discrepancies in outcomes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to rewrite cos(4x) using double angle identities and questions the validity of different formulations. Some participants clarify the application of the cosine addition formula and the implications of assuming equality between cos(4x) and cos(2x + 2x).

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the use of trigonometric identities and clarifying misconceptions about the relationships between the expressions. There is an exploration of different interpretations of the equations involved.

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Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings of trigonometric identities and the implications of their applications in the context of self-study. The original poster's self-study context may influence the depth of their inquiries.

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I'm verify some trigonometry equations and am confused about a couple of things. (This is self-study, I'm not in school)

The equation cos4x = 1+8cos^4-8cos^2 can be solved by re-writing as 2(cos2x)^2 -1 and factoring out which yields the correct answer, however based on what I've seen in other double angle identity equations one can re-write cos4x as cos(2x + 2x).

I believe this can be written as [(2cos^2 - 1)(2cos^2-1)] + [(2cos^2-1)(2cos^2-1)], however the answer then comes out to 8cos^4-8cos^2+2. So it's off by "+1".

What about my thinking is flawed? They can't both be correct!

Thanks for your help.

Joe
 
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cos(a+b)=cosacosb-sinasinb ,what are you doing with second one in cos(2x+2x)
 
I'm obviously not writing the formula out correctly since the answer is not the same. I was just solving how I'v written it out [(2cos^2 - 1)(2cos^2-1)] + [(2cos^2-1)(2cos^2-1)]

Is there another way to write out cos(4x) as cos(2x+2x) instead of cos 2[(cos2x)^2-1] and have the answer come out to be 1+ 8cos^2x - 8cos^2x?

How do you add cos(2x + 2x)? or does cos4x not equal cos(2x+2x)?

Thanks,
Joe
 
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This section of PF library would be of help to you. It lists all the identities you need.
 
jtart2 said:
I'm obviously not writing the formula out correctly since the answer is not the same. I was just solving how I'v written it out [(2cos^2 - 1)(2cos^2-1)] + [(2cos^2-1)(2cos^2-1)]

Is there another way to write out cos(4x) as cos(2x+2x) instead of cos 2[(cos2x)^2-1] and have the answer come out to be 1+ 8cos^2x - 8cos^2x?

How do you add cos(2x + 2x)? or does cos4x not equal cos(2x+2x)?

Thanks,
Joe
cos(2x + 2x) ≠ cos(2x) + cos(2x)

You appear to be assuming that they are equal !
 
How do you add cos(2x + 2x)? or does cos4x not equal cos(2x+2x)?

Yes, and to expand do what user andrien suggested.
cos(2x + 2x) = cos2xcos2x -sin2xsin2x = cos^2 2x - sin^2 2x and use known trigonometric formula to simplify the expression down to one involving only cos, as required.
 
jtart2 said:
Is there another way to write out cos(4x) as cos(2x+2x) instead of cos 2[(cos2x)^2-1]

\cos(4x)\neq \cos\left(2(\cos^2(2x)-1)\right)

Because you already know that \cos(2x)=2cos^2(x)-1 hence 2\cos^2(2x)-1=\cos(4x) (do you see how that works?) and so finally, if we plug this expression into
\cos\left(2(\cos^2(2x)-1)\right)
we will have that equivalent to
\cos\left(2\cos^2(2x)-2)\right)=\cos\left(2\cos^2(2x)-1+1)\right)=\cos\left(\cos(4x)+1)\right)
 

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