Solving Truss Force Issue: CD & DE Equal to 0?

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The discussion revolves around the forces in members CD and DE of a truss structure, specifically questioning why these forces are considered to be equal to zero. Participants explore the implications of this assumption on the stability of the structure under given loading conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about why members CD and DE are considered to have forces equal to zero, suggesting that the vertical components of other members should counteract downward forces.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on who asserts that the forces in members CD and DE are zero, indicating a lack of consensus on this point.
  • A later reply references the textbook answers, implying that these sources support the claim that forces in CD and DE are zero.
  • One participant argues that if the structure and loading are symmetrical, then the equilibrium at joint d necessitates symmetry of forces in members CD and DE, presenting this as a clue to understanding the situation.
  • Another participant comments on the tone of the discussion, indicating a potential for miscommunication or misunderstanding among participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the assertion that forces in members CD and DE are zero. There are competing views regarding the interpretation of the structural behavior and the sources of authority on this matter.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the definitions and assumptions about symmetry and equilibrium in the truss structure, which may affect the interpretation of forces in the members discussed.

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In the attached problem, I don't understand why members CD and DE are equal to 0. I was under the impression that the combined vertical components of BC and CD should equal 6+downward components of BC and EF, as to counteract the force straight down, but this is not the case.

My questions:

Why are the forces in members CD and DE equal to zero?

If they are equal to 0, what stops the downward force from moving the structure?

Thank you

Note: G and Ay are 6 and 6, not 8 and 6 as shown. I used the right values for my calculations, but for some reason wrote 8 down
 

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It's not clear from your post: Who is saying that members CD and DE are equal to 0? Are you talking about the forces in these members?
 
Sorry yes - that's what I meant.
 
You still haven't answered the main question: who is saying that the forces in members CD and DE are equal to 0?
 
The answers in the back of the textbook
 
IF THE STRUCTURE AND LOADING ARE BOTH SYMMETRICAL THEN THE EQUILIBRIUM OF JOINT d REQUIRES SYMMETRY OF FORCES IN cd AND de. tHAT IS THE CLUE...
 
Hey, you don't have to shout.
 
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