Solving Vector Equation: (2i - 3j + 4k) X A = (4i +3j - k)

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The discussion revolves around the validity of a claim regarding the existence of a vector A that satisfies the vector equation (2i - 3j + 4k) X A = (4i + 3j - k). Participants explore methods to determine whether such a vector exists, focusing on the properties of cross products and dot products.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest computing the cross product for a general vector A = (A1, A2, A3) to see if a solution exists.
  • Others highlight that the cross product of two vectors is perpendicular to both vectors, implying that the dot product of the resulting vector and either of the original vectors should equal zero.
  • One participant notes that the dot product calculation yields a non-zero result, indicating a potential contradiction with the claim.
  • Another participant mentions that solving the equations derived from the cross product could lead to determining the existence of vector A.
  • Some express that there may be alternative methods to approach the problem, suggesting that multiple strategies can be valid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical properties of cross products and the implications of perpendicularity, but there is no consensus on whether the vector A exists or the best method to determine its existence.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the specific values of A1, A2, and A3, and the discussion does not clarify the implications of the non-zero dot product result.

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Kind of a weird question , don't really understand it:

"A student claims to have found a vector A such that:
(2i - 3j + 4k) X A = (4i +3j - k). Do you believe this claim?

thanks for your help...
 
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You need to see if you can find some vector A, such that the given cross product is valid. Simply compute the cross product for a general vector

A = (A1,A2,A3)

Does this vector exist?
 
Alternatively, try to apply the fact that the cross product of two vectors is perpendicular to both of the vectors crossed.
 
yeah, just seems like for any two crossed vectors there will always be one perpendicular to both of them, isn't that the case??
 
Yes,the three vectors involved in:
\vec{A}\times \vec{B}=\vec{C}

form a trirectangular trihedron...I hope u know that you problem assumed solving a 3-3 algebraic system...

Daniel.
 
So, since the reputed cross product must be perpendicular to both the other two vectors, the dot product between the (reputed) cross product vector and the other vector you know must be..?
 
skiboka33 said:
Kind of a weird question , don't really understand it:

"A student claims to have found a vector A such that:
(2i - 3j + 4k) X A = (4i +3j - k). Do you believe this claim?

thanks for your help...

The cross-produkt of two vectors is always perpendicular to both the vectors of which you calculate the cross-produkt.
in:
v1 \times v2 = v3
v3 is perpendicular to both v1 and v2

the dot-produkt of two perpendicular vectors is zero, so in your case
(2, -3, 4)\cdot(4, 3, -1)
should be zero, but it is -5.
 
Calculate the cross product of your first vector and A.
You'll end up with 3 equations, one for each component.
Set these equations to equal the respective components of your final vector.
Then try and solve the equations simultaneously.
If there is a solution, then the vector A exists.
 
It's the same advice i gave...It leads to the result,eventually...Unforunately for us,there's a much shorter and "brighter" way.Both Arildno and Gerben pointed it out...

Daniel.
 
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Of course calculating the dot product is a much easier way to solve the problem.
However, I think it is useful to show that there is more than one way to skin a cat, especially when they don't seem to grasp the first method.
 

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