Space docking using the Meissner effect

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The discussion explores the feasibility of using the Meissner effect, involving a strong rare Earth magnet and a superconductor like YBCO, for docking spacecraft in space. Participants consider the implications of temperature conditions in space and the practicality of such a system compared to existing docking methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the Meissner effect could be utilized to hold spacecraft together in space, leveraging the low temperatures to maintain superconductivity.
  • Another participant questions the practicality of this idea, noting that the temperature in space is not uniformly near 0 Kelvin and varies based on exposure to sunlight.
  • A later reply clarifies that in Low Earth Orbit, temperatures can reach around 120°/130° C, indicating that it is only cold in the shade.
  • While acknowledging the potential for the Meissner effect to work, one participant argues that it would be more expensive and less reliable than current docking systems, although they concede that it could function if the superconductor is kept in the shade.

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Participants express differing views on the practicality and reliability of using the Meissner effect for spacecraft docking, with no consensus reached on its viability compared to traditional methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to temperature variations in space and the potential costs and reliability issues associated with using superconductors for docking.

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Just a random thought: IF a strong rare Earth magnet and a superconductor like YBCO can perform meissner effect that holds them both in place, is it possible to make that in a larger scale, like in space?

I was thinking that since space's temperature is almost 0K, it can cool down superconductors without to much effort(man's effort), so a lbig rare Earth magnet and a big YBCO can be placed on two sides of spacecraft s that needs docking. Meissner effect will stick them in place. If the two spacecraft s need to come apart, they can just 1) heat up the YBCO just hot enough to lost superconductivity or 2) Just use an electromagnet from the beginning and turn it off.

Is that viable in any way?
 
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I'm not sure how practical that would be to hold 2 spaceships together. For one thing, to say that space is near 0 Kelvin would depend on your exposure to the Sun or another radiant heat source.
 
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scottdave said:
For one thing, to say that space is near 0 Kelvin would depend on your exposure to the Sun or another radiant heat source.
Yeah, I mean like in orbit around Earth.:smile:
 
YoungPhysicist said:
Yeah, I mean like in orbit around Earth.:smile:
Temperature of space for vehicles in Low Earth Orbit can be around 120°/130° C, or around 250° F. It’s only cold in the shade.

Although the Meissner effect would work, it would be far more expensive, no more effective, and much less reliable than docking rings. ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Docking_System ). Still, I can see no reason why it couldn’t work, so long as the superconductor was kept in the shade.
 
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