Special Relativity - Lorentz Transformation & Matrices

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The problem involves three non-accelerating observers with specified relative velocities, focusing on transforming coordinates of an event from one observer's reference frame to another using matrices. The context is within the subject area of special relativity and its relationship to Galilean transformations.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to apply matrices in the context of the problem, expressing uncertainty about the relevance of Galilean versus Lorentz transformations. Some participants question the appropriateness of using Galilean formulas given the context of special relativity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of using different transformation methods, with some suggesting that the problem may not require relativistic considerations. The original poster has sought clarification from an academic tutor, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the speeds of the observers and whether they are significant enough to necessitate the use of Lorentz transformations instead of Galilean ones, which has been a point of discussion among participants.

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Homework Statement


There are three observers, all non accelerating. Observer B is moving at velocity vBA with respect to observer A. Observer C is moving at velocity vC B with respect to observer B. All three observers and all their relative velocities are directed along the same straight line. Calculate the matrix transforming the coordinates of an event from the reference frame of observer A to the reference frame of observer C. Comment of the form of the matrix

Homework Equations


Assuming normal velocities (so we can use Galilean formulae) : $$u = v + u'$$

The Attempt at a Solution


Hi, if anyone could just explain what it is I need to do in this question please - I have not done Matrices yet in First Year Physics, but have looked up and understood how to use them (I think). I've never seen Matrices used in Relativity before.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks :)

EDIT :: So perhaps the coordinates of an event could be written as follows : $$\binom{t}{x}$$
In the reference frame of observer A, observer C would be going at a velocity of $$V = Vcb+Vba$$
Therefore in the reference frame of observer C, observer A would appear to going at the same speed in the opposite direction : $$V = -(Vcb+Vba)$$

EDIT2 :: So I'm guessing that would mean $$x' = x-vt$$
$$t'=t$$
and $$\binom{t'}{x'}=\binom{t}{x-vt}$$
And we're looking for a matrix that would help us move from ##\binom{t'}{x'}## to ##\binom{t}{x}##
So $$\binom{t}{x-vt}=\begin{pmatrix}
m&n\\
l&p
\end{pmatrix}
\binom{t}{x}$$
Therefore $$mt+nx=t \rightarrow m=1, n=0$$
$$lt+px=x-vt \rightarrow p=1, l=-v$$
Finally, $$\begin{pmatrix}
m&n\\
l&p
\end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix}
1&0\\
-v&1
\end{pmatrix}$$
Is that correct?
 
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Why are you using Galilean relativity instead of special relativity? The title of your thread suggests you should be using the latter.
 
To be honest, I got totally confused. The question that I'm given doesn't suggest that the observers are going at speeds close to the speed of light, so I'm not actually sure if I'm supposed to be using the Lorentz transformation or Galilean transformation :/
 
What you did is fine for Galilean relativity. The set up in the problem sounds like it's for special relativity to me.
 
Okay so I asked my academic tutor and since they're not moving at relativistic speeds, Galilean transformations are ok for this question, thank you !
 

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