Special Relativity: Solving for τ

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mathematical transformation in special relativity, specifically how to derive the equation for proper time (τ) from a partial differential equation involving spatial and temporal derivatives. The scope includes theoretical aspects of special relativity and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in transforming a partial differential equation into a specific form related to proper time (τ).
  • Another participant questions the source of the equations presented, indicating a need for clarity on their origin.
  • A participant provides a link to an adaptation of Einstein's 1905 paper, explaining their derivation process up to a certain point.
  • There is a discussion on the assumption of linearity, with one participant explaining that it implies the derivatives must be constants, leading to a specific form for τ.
  • Constants in the derived equation are noted to depend on velocity (ν), but not on the spatial or temporal coordinates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the mathematical approach involving linearity, but there is no consensus on the specific assumptions or transformations required to derive the final equation for τ.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about linearity and the nature of the constants involved, which may not be fully resolved or defined in the context of the equations presented.

Holystromboli
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I'm on my first pass through special relativity and I can't remember the math that would take me from:

(∂τ/∂x') + (ν/(c22))(∂τ/∂t) = 0

To

τ = φ(ν)(t - (ν/(c2 - ν2))x')

Any help would be appreciated.

Also, sorry for the terrible format, but I haven't taken the time to figure out how to do equations the right way. Any tips in that direction that would apply to an iPhone would be much appreciated as well... :)
 
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Holystromboli said:
Any help would be appreciated.

Where are you getting these equations from?
 
Here:
http://fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Sorry about that. It's an adaptation of the 1905 Einstein paper On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies. I followed the math through section 3 up until the derivation of the first equation in my post, but I can't remember why an assumption of linearity would allow me to transform the first equation in my post into the second.
 
Holystromboli said:
I can't remember why an assumption of linearity would allow me to transform the first equation in my post into the second.

Linearity means that ##\partial \tau / \partial x'## and ##\partial \tau / \partial t## must be constants--i.e., they cannot be functions of ##x'## or ##t##. (They can still depend on ##v##, because ##v## is not a function of any of the coordinates.) So we must have ##\tau = k_1 t + k_2 x'##, where ##k_1## and ##k_2## are constants. The first equation in your OP then let's you find the values of ##k_1## and ##k_2##, up to an unknown function of ##v## (the ##a## in the second equation).
 
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Perfect. Thanks!
 

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