Speed/energy problem, could someone please check my work

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving energy calculations for a can rolling down a slope after a car has traveled a certain distance. The subject area includes concepts of potential energy, kinetic energy, and rotational motion.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate potential energy at the top of the slope and kinetic energy at the bottom, using given equations and parameters. Some participants question the application of the moment of inertia in the calculations, while others seek clarification on the transition between energy equations.

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The discussion includes attempts to verify calculations and clarify concepts related to energy conservation. Some participants express uncertainty about the correct form of the moment of inertia, leading to further exploration of the topic. There is acknowledgment of mistakes, but no explicit consensus on the final approach has been reached.

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Homework Statement



when a car has traveled 100m up a 1 in 10 (sine slope) the driver stops and has a drink, he places an empty can of cola on the ground so that it can roll, the can weighs 50g and the radius of rotation k of the can is r

a, calculate the energy of the can at the top and bottom of the slope and the form it takes

b. calculate the speed of the can at the bottom of the slope

Homework Equations



E=1/2mv^2+1/2jw^2
Pe = MGH

The Attempt at a Solution



a, because the car has traveled 100m up the slope i calculated the height that the car was at. 100*1/10 = 10m

50 grams = 0.050gk

potential energy = mgh = 0.050*9.8*10 = 4.905Joules,

answer to a = potential energy at the top of 4.905Joules, this energy is changed to kinetic energy at the bottom and is also 4.905Joules

b, Kinetic energy gained ...E=1/2mv^2+1/2Jw^2

= E=1/2mv^2+1/2mk^2*w^2... where m = mass and K= radius of gyration

motion without slip w=v/r
= E=1/2mv^2+1/2mk^2*(v^2/r^2)

because the question states that the radius of rotaion of the can =r, I set these terms to 1

therefore E=1/2mv^2+1/2m*v^2

E=0.025*v^2+0.025*v^2
4.905=0.05v^2
98.1=v^2
v=9.9m/s

thankyou
 
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Everything looks good except I think should be J = 1/2 mk^2... I think you made a mistake when substituting this into 1/2 Jw^2. that'll change you numbers afterwards.
 
thanks for your reply, not quite sure what you mean though.
 
munkachunka said:
thanks for your reply, not quite sure what you mean though.

b, Kinetic energy gained ...E=1/2mv^2+1/2Jw^2

= E=1/2mv^2+1/2mk^2*w^2... where m = mass and K= radius of gyration

Can you describe how you got from the first line to the second...
 
yeah, point taken, yet another silly mistake that I am prone to making
 
having a look thrugh a textbook it turns out that I am not sure what is correct.

the book says E=1/2mv^2+1/2Jw^2 = E=1/2mv^2+1/2mk^2*w^2

please comment
 
I apologize munkachunka. I was wrong. :redface: The textbook is right. The moment of inertia of a thin hollow cylinder is I = mr^2 (not I = 1/2 mr^2 as I thought).

So everything in your initial post is correct. Sorry about that.
 
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no problem, thanks again for your help
 
munkachunka said:
no problem, thanks again for your help

you're welcome.
 

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