Speed of Free Electron Moving in Space

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The discussion revolves around determining the speed of a free electron moving in space, given its total energy expressed as E=1.5mc^2. Participants are exploring the relationship between total energy, kinetic energy, and relativistic effects.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of classical kinetic energy equations versus relativistic equations. There is a focus on the proper form of kinetic energy and the implications of using approximations when speeds approach the speed of light.

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Several participants have provided insights into the correct approach for calculating the speed of the electron, emphasizing the need to use the relativistic kinetic energy equation. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between total energy and kinetic energy, with some participants confirming their understanding of the concepts involved.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of relativistic physics, particularly the definitions and equations related to energy and speed. There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the application of classical versus relativistic formulas.

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The total energy of a free electron moving through empty space is E=1.5mc^2, where m is the mass of the electron and c is the speed of light. What is this electron’s speed?

1. c (the speed of light)
2. 0.7453c
3. 0.8660c
4. 0.9428c
5. 0.9950c
6. 0.9999c


I thought since that Etotal = 1.5mc^2 then...

Etotal = KE = .5mv^2

1.5mc^2 = .5mv^2 and solve for v (masses would cancel which is what I was looking for)

What is wrong about this approach?
 
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Using KE = .5mv^2 is only good when v << c.

Hint:
[tex]E = \gamma m c^2[/tex]
 
I believe that the proper relativistic kinetic energy equation would be

[tex]E_k = (\gamma - 1)mc^2[/tex]

Or did you make that mistake on purpose, Doc Al?
 
oh shoot...i forgot about that. Do I need to use the non-approximated version of KE? (I can never remember it.. but I'm looking it up right now)
 
E is total energy, of course. :wink:

(There's no need to find kinetic energy.)
 
okay
 
so mc^2 would cancel out on both sides and I would be solving 1.5 = gamma right?
 
quickclick330 said:
so mc^2 would cancel out on both sides and I would be solving 1.5 = gamma right?
Yep. That's all you need to do.
 
ahh...got it, thank you :-)
 
  • #10
Oh, I get it... the total energy of the free electron is the sum of its kinetic energy and the energy from the mass-energy equivalence? The potential energy of the electron is zero, since it's free, right?

[tex]E_{total}= (\gamma - 1)mc^2 + mc^2[/tex]
[tex]\ \ \ = \gamma mc^2[/tex]

Is this so?
 
  • #11
kudoushinichi88 said:
Oh, I get it... the total energy of the free electron is the sum of its kinetic energy and the energy from the mass-energy equivalence? The potential energy of the electron is zero, since it's free, right?

[tex]E_{total}= (\gamma - 1)mc^2 + mc^2[/tex]
[tex]\ \ \ = \gamma mc^2[/tex]

Is this so?
Yep.
 
  • #12
Ah, thanks...
 

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