Speed of light -- Why is it constant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the constancy of the speed of light, particularly in the context of electromagnetic waves and special relativity. Participants explore why light maintains a constant speed despite changes in wavelength and frequency, and how this relates to different mediums and reference frames.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that while the wavelength and frequency of light can change, its speed remains constant in a vacuum.
  • Others highlight that light behaves independently of any medium when in a vacuum, traveling at speed C for all observers regardless of their inertial reference frame.
  • There is a suggestion that light can travel at different speeds when passing through mediums like glass or water, raising questions about the constancy of light speed.
  • A participant mentions that Einstein's formulation of special relativity is based on two postulates, one being the constancy of the speed of light, but does not provide an explanation for why it is constant.
  • Another participant discusses a modern approach to understanding the constancy of light speed through altered geometric rules, emphasizing that the invariant speed applies only in free space.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of light's interaction with matter and how this affects its speed in different contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of light traveling through mediums versus in a vacuum, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of light's speed in various contexts.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of speed in different mediums, the complexity of light-matter interactions, and the abstract nature of the geometric approach to understanding light speed.

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In an electromagnetic wave like light,both wavelength and frequency changes but it's speed always remains constant.Why?
 
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russ_watters said:
Are you familiar at all with Special Relativity?
I'm sorry.I'm not.I just need a short and subtle answer for my question.The Wikipedia page confuses me with a lot of new terms I haven't yet learned.
 
Unlike, say, sound, light was discovered to behave as if it is independent of any medium (when in a vacuum). It is measured to travel at C by observers, regardless of inertial reference frame.

That said, it can be forced to travel through a medium like glass or water at a different speed.
 
russ_watters said:
That said, it can be forced to travel through a medium like glass or water at a different speed.
And that should mean that speed of light is not constant,right?
 
Einstein formulated special relativity from two postulates, or two assumptions. One, that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference. Two, that the speed of light is constant in all inertial frames of reference. In other words, Einstein offered no explanation for the constancy of light speed. He just showed that if it is constant he could explain the preceding fifty years of confusion in ten pages.

The modern approach is to start from a set of rules of geometry that are slightly different from Euclid's rules, then show that the constant speed of light falls out of them. That approach works well for going onto general relativity, but is a bit abstract. However, it brings out an important point. There is a speed which is invariant - it is the same in all frames. Light happens to travel at this speed (not a coincidence) but nothing changes about relativity if it turns out not to.

Don't worry about the speed of light in a medium. Light and matter interacting is complicated, and light only travels at the invariant speed in free space. In free space, a light pulse will always pass you at c, whatever you are doing. In a medium you aren't talking about just light anymore, so what happens depends on what the medium is doing.
 
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